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Psychiatrists don't know about suffering

Open discussion about the Anti-Psychiatry Movement and related topics. This includes the opposition to forced treatment and hospitalization as well as the belief that Psychiatric Medication does more harm than good. Please note that these topics are controversial and therefore this forum may offend some people. This is not the belief of Psych Forums or Get Mental Help and this forum was posted to offer a safe place to discuss these beliefs.

Postby amyphilo » Wed May 31, 2006 3:27 am

I've heard that psychiatrists have one of the highest if not THE highest rates of suicide of all in the medical / health care arena. Many of them probably use the drugs they prescribe.

I agree that they are largely drug pushers and believe in the myths that drugs work, they'll use any chemical tool they can, and are quick to ignore underlying causes, believing in the unproven theory of a chemical imbalance. However, unlike real doctors, they never can quite prove whether a chemical imbalance of neurotransmitters exists. A good holistic doctor can test you for hormone deficiencies or excesses, thyroid imbalances, nutrient deficiencies, allergies, and toxicity. A good therapist can compassionately help you overcome your problems.

Psychiatrists mostly practice pretend medicine. Whether or not they know about suffering, they sure do hear about it a lot. I imagine it must be frustrating when the patients don't get better, just worse.

I have a friend who works in a pyschiatrist's office as a counselor, and she has put herself on a pedestal as better than her clients. I definitely believe there is a level of the prisoner / guard mentality such as in the Stanford experiments. A psychiatrist is not really afraid to see his clients suffering as he has become immune to it or desensitized over time.

It's similar to some other specialty doctors who will gladly intervene with an unproven medical procedure or drug, but who will never really try to help you be HEALTHY. They shouldn't call it health care, they should call it the sick cycle.
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Postby Butterfly Faerie » Wed May 31, 2006 4:14 am

not in my case.
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Postby MSBLUE » Wed May 31, 2006 5:17 am

I went to my pdoc today, I never would say this but I'm done.

She told me quote:" I don't know how your family and husband tolerate you!!!" My whole issue was being a burden, and suicidal thoughts. yeah, this is what I need to hear. She also informed me "You aren't trying!!!" I've been friggin trying for 22 years. How can she say that. I not only try to help myself, but my mother , my husband with dysthemia, and this forum. :!: She's not trying. She can't find a quick fix med that works. awww, how does it feel??? She should live in this mind and feel my suffering for one friggin day.

She after 2 years, and all those meds and money, treated my bipolar, when it was a bpd issue, and put me right back on the regimen I was on when I came to her network that my last doc had me on. BEEATCH.

All that money and time, just to be told this. and back to square one. If she doesn' tknow what she is doing, she should step down.

My husband went off on her. And I'm still furious.
Screw em. I'll deal with this on my own, or go back and pay cash for my old doc, who gave a $#%^. :evil:
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Postby Isme » Wed May 31, 2006 6:42 am

ddeehopes, that sucks. :( Big cyber-hugs coming your way. I hope you find someone with compassion and sense to work with; your pdoc sounds like a waste of space. :(
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Postby MSBLUE » Wed May 31, 2006 6:54 am

Thank you isme. I needed to vent bad.

I will survive like always, before her, without her. She's not God.

I'm ticked off to say the least. Now I know what this anti-psych forum is all about. I'm 44 yrs. old, how dare she talk to me like that. I told her "woooo, wait right there, that is uncalled for, and totally out of line and unprofessional. This is about me and my family, not your opinion. Don't piss me off. I said, let's hurry this up, I want to leave." I will not allow her one more penny off me.

I appreciate your reply and empathy. I told my husband I feel like I'm going to see a probation officer when I see her. I'm a grown woman, and another thing she said is. "You are a very sick person". OMG!!!!! I have issues, that are from trauma, and bipolar, but it's not like I'm out killing people!!!???? I have never raised my voice to her. What was she doing? Trying to push my buttons? Well she did. I hope she can sleep tonight, because I sure can't.

Thanks again. cyberhugs back atcha
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Postby sniffles » Wed May 31, 2006 8:05 am

ah man ddee!!! i'm so sorry you had to go thru that! you poor thing! i'l second that hug offer to you! don't give up on all of them babes! there are some good ones out there, but like anything great, you have to find it first! sucks though since you'd think you wouldn't have to hey?
i remember my first Psych - i had thought he was really wierd, and since i was in hospital against my will for anorexia and organ failure, i really wasn't being very cooperative.i thought (still do- lol) he looked like a leprechaun. (hee hee). but anyway, i decided to give another psych a go (In SA you don't have to be referred first by your gp- you can just ring up and make an appointment) and went to this woman who i later found out had a really bad rep! she was such a cow man! she was as cold as ice- i don't think i ever saw her smile (prob had too much botox!lol) and was pretty calous and unhelpful. it lasted a few weeks, till i saw through her, and decided to go back to the first guy. well, i realised i'd been wrong about him and saw he was actually SUCH a great guy! i soon grew to really trust him and he (and my psychologist) was my lifeline. i had always been really scared about psychs and such, but he squashed those feelings. i had intensive therapy with him and my psychologist, and when i left the country for the UK i really was sad to leave them both. they were the only 2 that didn't judge me. i know he was a happy scripter- although after o.d'ing a few times on my benzos he abruptly stopped scripting me, so i guess he's not that bad. but the one thing i disagreed with was that he did a lot of ECT on ppl he figured he couldn't fix. i became friends with a girl in there with me (hospital) who had been ano since a kid and really just didn't seem to ever want to get better, and he would fry her brain all the time- it never seemed to work and i really don't think it's beneficial- but that's just me. since being in the uk my psych here is great- but it was a mission getting one that cared at first! the first one they sent me to was a total twat. he was more like a drill sargent (sp?) major and would drill me and yell at me if i din't answer his questions the way he thought i should. saw him once. then i got another dude who was pretty cool, but then i went to SA on holiday for 2 months and came back to find he'd left! nice hey? no notification at all. no letter nothing! turned out he was just covering for maternity leave for my current psych who'd been away a year! i didn't even KNOW he was a locum! i was so mad! but anyway- she's pretty awesome (looks like a combo of the doctor cuddy on House and that detective with the long curly brown hair and awesome eyes in CSI NY.)
anyway- so it's been a struggle but i think i'm there again at last. it was hard to start again with her since i'd really developed a good relationship with my psychs back in sa, but you know- i think it's worth it. we all need support. so i wouldn't even bother wasting the postage stamp or phone call to tell her to get knotted. just sign up somewhere else and she'l find out in due course when she gets your case files requested from her from the new psych. lol. love to be a fly on the wall then and see her face hey?

take care hun- you are awesome and special and don't need her deal! look after yourself and let us know if we can help at all!

hugs xx
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Postby MSBLUE » Wed May 31, 2006 1:31 pm

Awww, you are so sweet.

I hear ya, I've been to I don't know how many, in the course of my illness. Some were great and I'd lose them to them leaving and such, and be forced to find another. Starting over is such fun, aye? not. I know that I will end up with my old doc, even if out of pocket.
But I'm gonna hold off. The one thing is I also take xanax, and as you know it's so addictive. Been on them since 89. I've gone thru withdrawls in the past, oh my god. So I have to decide against the two evils.

I know I can handle the mania, the depressions I can live thru, I always do. I have ideation but no chance I would ever off myself. As it always passes for me.

The borderline is tough. It 's tough on me and my family. I need to get a handle on it AGAIN. I was in recovery for 5 years. Then relapsed. pdocs don't want to deal with anything they can't medicate. So they ship me off the psychologist. I literally hate talking about my past. I'm sure you understand that. It lashes up too much for me. So I refuse therapy now. And with the borderline it's so easy to say , hit the road for me.

Yeah, lol, thanks for making me laugh, I'd love to be a fly on the wall. Since it is so obvious it's about money since she just opened her own practice. She wasn't so bad when she worked for the network. I can see lawsuits in her future. And judged!!! That is it! That is what I've been feeling. thanks for naming it. I hate being judged. It's not like I did this on purpose. shheeeooot.

But anyhoo, today is another day. And it's over and you know I feel great knowing I"ll never have to report!!! to her again. I"M Free. :wink:

Thanks again hon.
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Postby Butterfly Faerie » Wed May 31, 2006 3:41 pm

WOW that is shocking I cannot believe your doctor said that to you Ddee... time to get a refferal to someone else.

That's unbelieveable. :shock:
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Postby MSBLUE » Wed May 31, 2006 3:57 pm

Hey girl, goodmorning.

We are playing pingpong forum post today aye?

Shaa, I thought at first I was black and whiting this......but I know I"m not. She was outa line. You know how I hate stigma :twisted:

If things get too bad, I'll go back to my good doc. He was the reason I was in recovery, I give him full credit. She doesn't have a clue about bpd. So I'm better off. Irony is, last visit, I told her that I wouldn't run her off......hahaha. Hey she gave me a reason. I wasn't looking for one tho. This really slapped me in the face. :shock:

thanks for your reply. I really needed it.

(((lil sista)))
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Postby Butterfly Faerie » Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:50 pm

I'm everywhere sista..

(((hugs)))
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