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antipsychiatry and antipsychotics

Postby gabe911 » Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:59 pm

Hi. does anyone have a response to the claim of antipsychiatrists that antipsychotics dont work. They say that they disable a person so much that a person cant have delusions anymore. Here is their claim:

"They (antipsychotics) physically, neurologically blot out most of a person's ability to think and act, even at commonly given doses. By disabling people, they can stop almost any thinking or behavior the "therapist" wants to stop. But this is simply disabling people, not therapy."
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Re: antipsychiatry and antipsychotics

Postby Copy_Cat » Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:17 am

Disabling ?

Brain-Disabling Treatments in Psychiatry: Drugs, Electroshock and the Psychopharmaceutical Complex http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-peter-breggin/braindisabling-treatments_b_85828.html

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Re: antipsychiatry and antipsychotics

Postby edgnbd » Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:56 pm

If a psychiatrist deems you to have delusions the aim is to cure you of your delusions. Therefore, if the drugs disabled you in the way that you are enquiring about you could say that they have worked because they have stopped your delusional thinking.

However, in my experience the drugs do not do this. They alter chemical activity in the brain, but the result of this is to leave you feeling out of sorts to varying degrees depending on the drug and the dose. It's more accurate to say that they affect you physically. For example, I have found that they make you feel weak and drowsy. Weight gain is another problem associated with antipsychotics.

Overall, I have found that having my brain chemicals tampered with results in degradation to the body.
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Re: antipsychiatry and antipsychotics

Postby Ian Reynir » Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:00 pm

I just posted a response on the Bipolar forum regarding relapse and medication adherance that may be on interest to you regarding the effectiveness of psychiatry.

The following review article, "Identifying and improving non-adherence in bipolar disorder" (2005), states that "Forty percent of individuals receiving ongoing antipsychotic treatment experienced a relapse compared with 80% of those who swapped from antipsychotic medication (given during the acute episode) to placebo treatment during the prophylaxis phase of the study (34). The time to any type of mood episode was only 22 days in the placebo group compared with 174 days in those receiving the active medication." That study was a 12 month study in which the only medication studied was Lithium.

From what I can tell from this article, the average bipolar individual benefits significantly from the use of Lithium (in terms of relapse). I am still suprised that so many people (40%) relapsed within a year even while taking the medication. My doctors never told me that!
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Re: antipsychiatry and antipsychotics

Postby Rattatat » Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:22 pm

Yes I agree with that gabe911. Antipsychotics are a form of partial execution. The psychiatrist looks at your brain for 2 mins and decides part of it is evil where dopaimne must be subdued so you can live as a zombie. Antipsychotics are not your saviour but they are a gun made to kill and with that other functions in your life and side-effects because they were made by the monkeys.

If one was having a rough time on the internet do you think making them lag is a viable solution?
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