How Many Die On Antipsychotics

how do they treat someone who is suicidal because of the psychiatric $#%^? I only got a month before my CTO is reviewed but things aren;t looking good because they are worried about me because I hate it so much, won't directly tell them i'd rather be dead then spend another year under their discretion ....I'd rather be in charge of my own life , drowned on their drugs is not living

I can;t commit suicide because maybe I could make a difference once I get off the $#%^, maybe just maybe I'm meant to go through it to learn something....almost got out of the system until stress and sleep deprivation but I'd learnt a lot about myself and keeping healthy since a few admissions 7years before.

Razael wrote:yeah I tried mental health review board but the only care if you take your medication and side with the doctors opinion, its a waste of time like most services are just there to entertain the idea that someone cares or can help with the situation....we have chief psychiatrist, talk to an arrogant bitch of a clinical adviser with typical infuriating attitude and ego $#%^ of the health profession. She had no interest in passing the message onto the authority and the whole reason for calling them, its a waste of time nobody can actually do anything

yeah I've got an appointment coming up because my case manager was worried, how repulsive just cos she's worried and delusional they will listen to her and afraid they put my dose up, but the opposite will be more effective in my complacency to treatment which is the problem coz I've had enough of the $#%^, I wouldn;t have a problem if they reduced the meds or took me off or listened to how $#%^ the drugs make me feel and acknowledge their effect instead of just saying its the illness not the drugs which is really getting on my nerves as with the other #######4 they twist reality and use the marketing $#%^ of the pharma industry like the drugs are magical and put thoughts in order and $#%^....how do the drugs put thoughts in order?its ridiculous

3 years is a long time, were you on CTO for the whole time because you don't agree with psychiatry? your treatment sounds a lot like mine, are you in Australia, thats how they operate in australia too

The main thing is we can't let the doctors see that they're getting to us because that plays right into their hands. The more we react the more they win because they will write reports that are a pack of lies for the tribunal, i've had three tribunals and lost them all because I got angry with the doctors which reinforces their belief that we are ill and need the medication. I'm on a CTO because I refused to take tablets and the only way they could force it on me was a depot injection. I believe that if there was enough of us hating the system we could do something about it because it should not be happening it's atrocious and needs people to stand up to the doctors. I went on many protests inside of hospitals and every little helps these horrible people get whats coming to them.

if I had my vocabulary and communication skills I'd ask if they think their service to humanity will be rewarded in the afterlife and if they say yes let them know they are deluded about their place in the world.......I don't get what they gonna make of me because there was a report made on me that I was agitated about my last appointment, so what does my case manager do books me another one and says "we see things a little differently" in her fake and pretentious act of being caring, so dunno what s in store...I usually just go along with it and maybe get into long and circular discussions that always wind up them saying its because of my illness when its the drugs I'm complaining about.....I think its healthy to get a bit of steam into dealings with their ludicrous ideology and obsession with mental illness's and their delusions, I'm sick of dealing with them so may as well make it show

yeah they'll get whats coming to them for practicing pharmakia that is the word for witchcraft in the bible if we can go with that idea that they get pretty nasty consequence for thinking they can be so helpful with their potions. There must be other ways of seeing their karma and what is recorded in arkashic{?} records about people and how many have been given a sentence of not living according to their potentials being lied to and suppressed and destroying spirit and reality of so many people.

I remember how frustrating it was when I felt fine in hospital after a days rest but they still treating me as if I'm psychotic and using everything against me to suggest I am deluded in battling them with the notion that I would recover superior to their prognosis.

I need some words to describe psychiatry....something to do with logic and the betrayal of reality....Like I need them out of my life for my own good yet they see that problem means I need them more

Is there anything on the planet in reality that is similar to what its like to be in psychiatry apart from NAZI germany during the holocaust? meaning I don't even know how they can judge peoples behaviour in such an unnatural environment.

They have no integrity, insight into the mental health of others or judgement for that matter...they are ignorant twats

there must be some good words to describe them

Razael wrote:if I had my vocabulary and communication skills I'd ask if they think their service to humanity will be rewarded in the afterlife and if they say yes let them know they are deluded about their place in the world.......I don't get what they gonna make of me because there was a report made on me that I was agitated about my last appointment, so what does my case manager do books me another one and says "we see things a little differently" in her fake and pretentious act of being caring, so dunno what s in store...I usually just go along with it and maybe get into long and circular discussions that always wind up them saying its because of my illness when its the drugs I'm complaining about.....I think its healthy to get a bit of steam into dealings with their ludicrous ideology and obsession with mental illness's and their delusions, I'm sick of dealing with them so may as well make it show

yeah they'll get whats coming to them for practicing pharmakia that is the word for witchcraft in the bible if we can go with that idea that they get pretty nasty consequence for thinking they can be so helpful with their potions. There must be other ways of seeing their karma and what is recorded in arkashic{?} records about people and how many have been given a sentence of not living according to their potentials being lied to and suppressed and destroying spirit and reality of so many people.

I remember how frustrating it was when I felt fine in hospital after a days rest but they still treating me as if I'm psychotic and using everything against me to suggest I am deluded in battling them with the notion that I would recover superior to their prognosis.

Those disgusting excuses for doctors are so wrapped up in their own psychiatric world they probably don't even know what they're on about half the time. I'm trying to escape services but it is proving difficult because the more I withdraw the more they think I "need" them. I have never needed anyone especially not those ****'s. I've tried to calmly explain that I want to carry on my life and never be bothered by them again - and they documented the voices were telling me to say that. Any ideas would be appreciated how to combat these "doctors" because they are literally driving me insane with their constant psychiatric labels and drugs. They just can't accept that people can move on from services - then again if they let that happen they would have no clients and would lose their job so they need to snare people in and terrorize and drug them until there's no life in them at all.

my experience is they are very bad at judgement, there pre-occupations and bias in treating us as mentally ill gets in the way of sound judgemnet and insight....maybe they like to make out anything that challenges them to be a symptom to ignore it....

I can only suggest in your own words ask them how they can judge the voices made you say the things you do, there is no proof and its a bad call and not with reality they are deluded or at least a little bit to sure of themselves..do you even hear voices??? or they just assume you do based on the diagnosis, they are pretty sloppy like that....like they assume everything you say is a delusion if they don;t understand or isn;t part of the agenda to get you drugged like everything I said about using chi-gung in the past to heal my mind/body and spirit and because I said spirit or referred to disruptions of energy perceived in the body and overcoming that condition through say breath-work and meditation they wouldn';t have a clue even though it speaks of my experience with sensation making for altered states of mind and a means for overcoming the dilemma, they won;t get it so they say its a delusion even though its ultimately reality or anything from other cultures or belief system they are unfamiliar with.

like you I'm in process of communicating the exact same thing saying they don't serve me well or according to the reality of my situation at all. all they do is give you drugs and try to convince you to keep taking it on your own accord because you now believe you have a mental illness and think its best treated according to their limited reality. They see things differently, I'm not sure how but that's the last thing I heard before I hung up on my case manager talking about so called problematic behaviour in support group when I wanted to vent the $#%^ I been told in my recent appointment that had me up all night frustrated with intrusion in my mental space, I won't tell them exactly how I experienced it so they don't put my dose up its only because of their influence that I have these problems feeling restricted and smothered by them taking over my life, so they see it as something that needs treatment

won't know until I see them how much they made out of a moment I wanted to vent this $#%^ in public and its hard with my intellect ruined by the drugs to formulate the perfect response other then using as an opportunity to try to talk some sense into them and telling them to wake the ###$ up from their #######5 [need a word] world and existence I want to let them know they are filth and my own integrity want nothing to do with anymore...what world of fantasy and obsession with mental illness is it, I can only think to ask what they consider to be normal behaviour if they were in my situation...maybe I play it like that and they might want to say "but we arenn';t mentally ill" or some $#%^ but that isn't the point, how would any normal person feel in that situation.\?..They have to consider it in order of respect and dignity to assume you are normal and capable to make your own decisions , that's where it gets #######5 that they constantly treat us as defective yet claim to be respectful in an agree to disagree because they think we are the ones that are ill and ignore everything we say or if it makes an impact on them make it out to be a symptom because their perfect idea of mental health is someone who can deal with how triggering psychiatrists really are, most of the time antipschotics make us forget about reality and feel like their is a better alternative then their #######5 drugs that give us negative symptoms instead of acknowledging how exactly antipsychotics affect the mind of a normal person nevermind their fantasy in their imagined effect on a schizophrenic brain they don;t even know whats going on......

They disagree with reality of what we say therefore making them deluded yet they put it back onto us because they consider themselves to have better judgement becuase we are mentally ill

its tricky

seems they do all they can to excuse their own behaviour in treating people as mentally ill

I getting long again, because I used some bushy marijuana, hope it doesn't make me incoherant and more so hope they kkeep buying the idea that "oh no doctor marijuana triggers my mental illness I don't use it anymore" when in reality it gives me the feeling that I am functioning normally and to my cognitive potentials --like the mind is mysterious, we naturally receive creative inspiration from a higher power or plane of existance

I actually found some relief and good feelings from feeling suicidal because of psychiatry with the egyptian goddess Ma'at she stands for truth and justice...archangel micheal has only ever been a let down and appears to me as a dark figure with strange eyes, he looks real close but never says anything, nothing ever does from my experience of the astral world..Raphael doesn't show or is too subtle but once tried to get me to chew my food more lol, it was serious the angels were re-forming my life and I wanted to be enitive-pity about the vampire eige over my home night after night and the hit of pergatory, hey I feel good remembering this $#%^ anyway

so I felt better and spirituality helped me feel peace from being suicidal yet they treat my beliefs as a delusion and sign of mental illness...only certain angels or goddess appear in my astral vision, maa't did appear astrally to me once like an imaginary friend with some private stuff but this time she lifted the weight of having this case manager in my perception and intruding on my mental space, like they do when I had dealings with them until i get over it, it seeps into my consciousness and feel satisfied with my treatment and like what they are trying to program me with...as if I would tell them that, it just sounds like schizophrenia or something, yet something I only rarely encounter and it is usually a situation when I am not being respected or someone is trying to take over my life. could be vocalised as putting thoughts in head, or interpreted that way but it is something much more fundamental and according to their desires to change the way I think about medical treatment...maybe I should have written a topic in schizoaffective...affective because I ######6 hate psychiatry and even a source of trauma in how I behave abnormally around them and limited to them..am quite fine with police and ambulence depending on what I think I can get out of seeing a psychiatrist for apparent psychological problems when I am sleep deprived.

I befriended a couple of angel that changed form into big cat when I was in psych-ward then after I had no contacts-still don';t much but when I lay in bed lately I can still see michael but he was strange and used to lay inside my body when I was trying to transcend as if to get a feel for how I was operating...I asked him to again but then he was afraid since antipsychotics yet took me on journey to heaven, we mirrored eachother and I suspected I was too active in how communications were perceived like it was just imagination.

used to call myself RAguel on forums because I liked what he stood for before ever really meeting him- he is for peaceful resolution to circumstances, my circumstance was weird -he operated a screen to see how many were against me in issues I had with my ex-girlfreind that got wicked and ###$ me up....But then I was introduced to Raziel because he was a like a twin and appeared as an active astral freind for such a short time but they are different to whatever an imaginary friend is like a b eing born on the astral realm, they even pretend to be celebrities or are created by the subconscious of thier fame and peoples fantasy about who they are, at least where I was heading during the attack of vampires or what I identified as such and arrival of arch-enemy who stole my friend who was a slut-ah but thats what you get with astral relationships they get weird, she left me and then got sieged by all her new friends that wanted to take me apart while I slept---my ex had crept into some of that karmic $#%^ because I sent them to her before they came to me, actually a species said they would kill me but it would be gracious --dunno why I thought my ex had eaten a saint in her past in some evil $#%^, she was a scorpio and stole all my friends, she may have come accross some dark $#%^, didn;t know about her ritual of eating a saint

-- Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:20 pm --

yeah that was one of my actual delusions I never got a chance to tell apsycchiatrist...I had come to understand some dark $#%^ about my ex-girlfriend that I was lucky to get out as she had a history of eating a human alive like she was some freak! lol, its funny looking back on it, I had to call mother mary to overcome her spell, she was some crazy ###$ up chick in a bad mood and I brought out some $#%^ in her before we broke up

so I actually got deluded about it but it didn';t mess me round that much to the point i forgot about it and it seems funny now...I still don;t trust her, since quackery and that wierd psychic war that she got her friends involved in telling lies about me and ruining my old social sphere , so it was a product of my subconscious and symbolic of overcoming some deficit

gee it would be nice to talk to an insightfull expert into the consciousness about my psychotic $#%^, coz doctors these days are ignorant ###$ that cant' see the bigger picture

I said enough pardon me

I have been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia because apparently I hear voices, hallucinate and have paranoid delusions. Strange thing how a paranoid delusion is that people are conspiring against you when in fact thats exactly what the doctors, nurses and therapists do. Then they label someone as a paranoid schizophrenic because they don't want any trouble or for anyone to actually believe what the system is doing to us and completely destroy our reputation. My eyes rolled back into my head because of the medication - the doctors said I was hearing voices, I broke eye contact - the doctors said I was hallucinating and they increased my depot medication. We need to expose these doctors for what they really do to peoples lives and they refuse to let us away from the psychiatric world even if we want to move on. It's the key symptom of "paranoid schizophrenia" but this is true - this is all a conspiracy which is why so many doctors are the same and we are powerless to stop it

I hope they are having fun and come to realise what they are actually doing

They have no integrity at all, most of them in it must think they are valuable members of society fighting this mythological condition that I understand in an artificial construct imposed onto somebody with vague questions to get a diagnosis....most of my behaviour too is limited to psychiatry and the #######4 that gets you ###$ up on antipsychotics for as long as they want, that is a real threat especially with history of being abused by psychiatry and knocked out on drugs and ###$ up situation when you get treated as if you are mentally ill and the pretentious $#%^ of the nurses giving you drugs.....and ###$ up is rispiridone orals that disolve and can't cheat the system and recover normally with the impression your taking your drugs...I wasn't brave and regurgitated pills for a while before officially refusing and then gave me Flupanthixol and was released before that would be effective about 4days after it. They invented symptom becuase I told them I had "religious and spiritual problems" according to the dsm and explained why I had a shaminic crisis and my prognosis without medication was good but she just said it was ongoing spiritual delusions and still released me before even being given day leave and that #######4 so I could lock my house up

-- Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:44 pm --

get your prolactin checked if you on high dose of respiridone,..hormonal imbalance they can actually take notice of