How Many Die On Antipsychotics

Razael wrote:they just think the medications are working and to prevent me going off and relapsing which they think is inevitable.

what about death of the personality and sexual identity and self-confidence etc
I can only have relationships and jobs when I'm off antipsychotics but they are all about recovery and encouraging me to focus on what I can do but everything is ###$ by the medication

-- Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:38 am --

been trying to remember my spiritual ideals that got picked up as delusions and make a correcttion to my file about a whole lot of other stuff too but its useless.

Mabey you can fake them out by just not talking about spititual ideas or whatever stuff you know they have a problem with ?

Razael wrote:they just think the medications are working and to prevent me going off and relapsing which they think is inevitable..

OK, but do they have the legal right to forcibly medicate you in that case? Don't you have the right to refuse medication? Just wondering.

if I refuse they get the cops to bring me to hospital

although I should look into my rights more, now I can make judgement over my treatment

Razael wrote:if I refuse they get the cops to bring me to hospital

although I should look into my rights more, now I can make judgement over my treatment

Whos monitoring you, how do they know you've stopped taking meds?

get an injection every fortnight...they keep telling me its the lowest dose but that is a load of $#%^, who makes up the idea of what is therapeutic and safe?

Just ask them politely whether you have the right to refuse medication, now that you aren't in psychosis. Where I live, no one can force me to take anything unless I'm in psychosis, because it's a free country and not some insane totalitarian hellhole.

it makes more sense if I gonna go off eventually that I may as well do it under the observation of a professional, so they can atleast see that I was right about a lot of the problems with the meds and at least live a life I am happy with.

sounds good, I will try to see what will happen if I politely tell them to shove the injections in their arses

am on a CTO so that might mean I'm legally obliged to take their $#%^ or they throw me back in hospital to get treatment, surely it must account for something that I can make my own medical decisions

am on a CTO so that might mean I'm legally obliged to take their $#%^ or they throw me back in hospital to get treatment,

Yeah, that's probably what it means. I had no idea such laws were common in the English speaking countries. Seriously, can you imagine a country where people, either as individuals or as a community, HAVE TO pay for and use expensive drugs that are ineffective in most cases and often quite harmful?? Well, that's your country, apparently. It's more insane than any single person could ever hope to be. There is no evidence at all that it's for the greater good:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_ ... r#Evidence

If you follow the money, the trail of it ends at the doorstep of purely for-profit corporations who have deceived the public for decades about the efficacy and safety of their products. This is now public information, largely thanks to the Freedom Of Information Act and a couple of researchers who had the imagination and integrity to use it to check whether even the drug companies' own trials proved efficacy or not. (They don't.)

And since it's public information, that also means the psychiatrists are now collaborators, since they choose to do nothing about it. They should boycott all antipsychotic and antidepressant drugs (which are useless anyway) until the FDA and similar authorities require a meta analysis of all submitted trials of a drug to prove efficacy and safety, effective immediately and applied retrospectively to all drugs they have ever approved. And then the psychiatrists should actually look at those analyses and base their treatment practices on the damn data, not wishful thinking. Mind you, that's just the least they should be doing. It's not much, it's just the absolute minimum for anyone who claims medical authority in the field of psychiatry.

In the Netherlands and in Berlin, there exists a Runaway-House for psychiatric patients. Do they also exist in other countries?
http://www.peter-lehmann-publishing.com/articles/others/iris_eng.htm