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How Many Die On Antipsychotics

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Re: How Many Die On Antipsychotics

Postby MrOmega » Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:33 pm

Guy I was huffing paint thinner in grade school... I absolutely doubt there is any such thing as permanent damage. There is only stagnation.

The terrible secret would be that the antipsychotic depot injection is designed to result in death (maybe liver failure) and governments use it kill criminals/undesirables, who can be injected without consent.


That's not the terrible secret, the terrible secret is that neuroleptics are designed to shut down entire portions of the brain chemically, effectively and they were the next step in the chain after surgical lobotomies.

That was the great humane medical advancement. From surgical removal of parts of the brain to chemical death of the brain.

I don't know what happens to a person with a total surgical removal of a part of the brain, however neuro plasticity is the science which shows the brain continues to grow and evolve long after it's run out of "traditional" neural pathways, it will adapt other portions of the brain to compensate.
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Re: How Many Die On Antipsychotics

Postby Chrysaor686 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:36 am

That was the great humane medical advancement. From surgical removal of parts of the brain to chemical death of the brain.


I would consider it more humane if they just shot me in the head.
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Re: How Many Die On Antipsychotics

Postby name_changed » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:54 pm

Has everyone heard of that study in the 70's where a heap of med students went to emergency departments and complained of hallucinations. they were admitted to psych wards. they then acted normal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenhan_experiment


Things have only got worse. since then, those treated with neuoroleptics die earlier and with alot more health problems, they work less, breed less, play less, live less.
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Re: How Many Die On Antipsychotics

Postby Razael » Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:01 am

I could have died in a psych ward once, after I was forced to take several injections...my face and arms started contorting (can't remember what its called) then having a arguement about the dangers of marijuana with a nurse trying to tell me this $#%^ was good for me but I was like "am I gonna stay this way for the rest of my life" ironically....my tongue blocked my airways and knocked on the window of some other nursed the fool giving me cannabis lecture did nothing to the situation I was in....yeah they got me on a bed and shoved a tube down my neck, I was in a panic and the guy didn;t breath fast enough and I passed out.....remembered having out of body experience and what the nurses were saying about me being dead but one guy could detect a pulse......funny enough I also vaguely remember them doing ECT on me after that when I was still passed out...

I was remembering that among other traumatic memories that led to sleep deprivation and stress maladaptive daydreaming about dying from these traumatic slices with death,,,ive had a few and none of it was considered by psychiatrist for diagnosis of my current state inflicted with sleep deprivation and stress since it didn;t match up with schizophrenia what they pushed for in diagnosis....they ignored the fact that I am allergic to a psych drug instead the quack said on my notes that my tongue got swolen

is it just me or don;t psyhciatrists actually listen, $#%^ I was going through hell remembering al the times I almost died and was traumatised but they didn;t listen to a word and probed for stuff that would prove I am schizophrenic...I can explain it and doing my best to write notes to my consumer relations manager but even in writing this stuff doesn't come out clear enough on how my past hospital admissions were related to things like near headon collisions with a truck passing a carivan they jacknifed and killled the family but we drove off because they were drunk didn;t mention that in recent report but last time i put my stuff in writing the head psychiatrist says maybe I am a bit over-sensitive or prone to psychosis like I am somehow less then other people who can deal with times they almost died and coverups because I forgot about the accident and the others went to report it to authority to never be part of investigation..and I forgot about it, immediately I was in crisis of transcendence with family and using pot and wound up having my life threatened by psychiatry.

and yeah it is a threat to life, lately I wonder of the consequences of destiny the quacks would say I'm deluded because I worry that after death my life is worthless because of psychiatry and haven't reached my spiritual maturity because of antipsychotics, like transcendence and ascension and eternal life, maybe psychosis is a way of addressing karmic stuff during life that most people have to wait till they are dead, just maybe

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ABOUT thae holocaust...the psychiatrists responsible for the medical torture and genocide of the mentally ill were not guilty of war crimes or charged or anything.....the heads of eugenics like the rockefellers just went back to america, maybe some of the psychiatrist did too, so maybe we really are in the 4th Reich of the Nazi agenda
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Re: How Many Die On Antipsychotics

Postby Razael » Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:15 am

worst still when my recent admission got the notes from past admissions, it had been about 7years [so unlucky not to have perminantly got out of this $#%^] they didn;t even mention that I am alergic to I think it is Acuphase, no mention at all, you'd think that me getting in a critical condition would make it to notes about my admission for future reference, don;t inject this guy with acuphase.

worst again, they used this against me or I was hypervigalent at my /er admission and they claim I was paranoid to say I am schizophrenic, and the sleepers they gacve me before my interview ###$ my head up I had only just aroused myself from passing out when they made diagnosis and me complaining about thought blocking and how the drugs ###$ me up just confirmed I am paranoid about medications and the staff.


###$ that psychiatrist, he's a real problem should get him shot, would love to torture him but I would feel sorry for the puny mess that I would be nice to him.....

-- Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:22 pm --

the establishment puts a lot of time and money into covering up the safety of the drugs, that is a right in australia to receive safe and effective treatments.

the whole establishment has a case of magical thinking about the drugs bordering on delusion especially how they can simulate negative symptoms, its a real frustration and none of the drawbacks on lifetyle and ability to be interested in hobbies and arts like I used to just ignored and they say maybe I should practice more or something.....i used to be good on viola and guitar and it was a passion now I don;t have any passion yet they can;t tell its the drugs even though i tell them what is going on,,,,aloof and deluded they are
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Re: How Many Die On Antipsychotics

Postby Guangxi » Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:32 am

It sounds so horrible!

Is it really impossible to prevent the administration of antipsychotics after being spotted by psychiatry?

What about escape, the help of relatives or consulting a different psychiatrist?
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Re: How Many Die On Antipsychotics

Postby Riccola » Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:36 am

Many do, and the fact its a gradual process means pharma can use the excuse, "since it doesnt kill them when they start taking it means its safe" They sedate the person taking them, creating the illusion they are working, however not without sedating cognitive thinking and for some even reality perception. Those who take them for sometime loose a great deal of memory, motor skill, critical thinking and so forth. In nearly all cases those who take them daily for years dont live as long compared to the general population.

Withdrawing from anti-psychotics can be just as dangerous as taking them to begin with. They are made to be addictive so Pharma has a constant stream of "loyal" patients. Staying on them means endocrine and nervous system damage in the long run, with-drawing from them means serious withdrawal symptoms in the short run.

Theres also things like permanent ticks and movements once completely off them. :cry:

Adults however can heel better from them than kids can. Don't even get me started on what psych meds turn them into. :evil: Another day ill go into detail.

I know theres a lot more to say about them but my mind is tired (long day) :roll:
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Re: How Many Die On Antipsychotics

Postby Razael » Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:15 am

they make all the deficits from the meds out to be part of the illness, like how memory problems effect communication etc the quacks take no notice of our insight into how the drugs are effecting consciousness

they'd even like to make out the 25year reduction in life is something to do with the illness I bet, like lifestyle factors which I personally know that lifestyle takes a negative turn from administering antipsychotics, has anyone found they don;t have the motivation to look after themselves or engage in hobbies and stuff, yeah that's apparently the illness....

I gave up smoking last time I went off antipsychotics and made many other positive changes too and could play my instrument again, but the quacks ignore all that and just say the drugs will organise thoughts and #######4 like that, its not good enough, they are supposed to be experts
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Re: How Many Die On Antipsychotics

Postby mctps » Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:57 am

Razael, if you're in the U.S., you could try moving to another state where there is no forced medication. Aren't there only a few states where forced medication is legal unless you're a convicted felon or in acute psychosis? Or maybe the psychiatrists are claiming you're in constant psychosis? If so, you might want to change how you present yourself and what you reveal to them about your ideas.
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Re: How Many Die On Antipsychotics

Postby Razael » Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:29 am

they just think the medications are working and to prevent me going off and relapsing which they think is inevitable.

what about death of the personality and sexual identity and self-confidence etc
I can only have relationships and jobs when I'm off antipsychotics but they are all about recovery and encouraging me to focus on what I can do but everything is ###$ by the medication

-- Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:38 am --

been trying to remember my spiritual ideals that got picked up as delusions and make a correcttion to my file about a whole lot of other stuff too but its useless.
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