Forced psychiatric treatment

Hi cfit60,

I have worked in a highly physical job for a number of years so learnt a bit about back problems and even went through some painful pain in my neck after being battoned by the police(grabbed from behind on the chin and tried to be pulled to the ground). It was based in my neck so controlled a lot nerves(pain) going into my head and travelled down my entire back. It was really unbearable but I continued to work for about a year on and off afterwards so I had this pain for about 4 years maybe.

I've also known people who have had back problems, usually the lower back or sciatica. When stuck within some painful back pain people often think that it will be there forever but this isn't usually the case even if it has been around for a while. The common approach that a doctor will tell you to take, unless you have a slipped disc or something that will require surgery, is to keep active while prescribing you with something like voltaren for the pain and inflamation over trying to huddle up in bed and rest it. And common sense like bending at the knees so not using your back like a crane.

I didn't really like the pills but a couple of things I found of comfort was having some creame to rub on. I think voltaren has one but I liked this one in a purple container that smelt a lot nicer. . And I also went for visits to an acutpunturist where they would hook the needles up to a current which sent electric shocks down the needles and half an hour of intense massage. Not that these things cured the pain but they made it just a little more bearable while going through it.

You don't really say what is a serious back injury so I thought I'd write this stuff down so maybe it could help you.

Its needed. For those twenty or so horror stories, there are millions that were needed!! And if those people didnt have forced psychiatry they would havew committed suicide.

Its needed. For those twenty or so horror stories, there are millions that were needed!! And if those people didnt have forced psychiatry they would have committed suicide.

There are far more than twenty horror stories. Every person I encountered in the mental hospital (aside from three people who were there of their own will) had their own horror story involving forced psychiatric treatment.

The only difference between the damage caused by antipsychotics and suicide is that suicide is committed willingly by oneself. I may as well be dead, as I am no longer human.

katierosemason1989 wrote:Its needed. For those twenty or so horror stories, there are millions that were needed!! And if those people didnt have forced psychiatry they would havew committed suicide.

Realy ?

How do you know ?

Did you ever read this study ?

"Abstract
OBJECTIVE: The authors' goal was to investigate whether there is a greater suicide risk in the placebo arms of placebo-controlled studies of active medication for the treatment of acute manic episode and the prevention of manic/depressive episode. If so, this would be a strong ethical argument against the conduct of such studies.

METHOD: All placebo-controlled, double-blind, randomized trials of medication for the treatment of acute manic episode and the prevention of manic/depressive episode that were part of a registration dossier submitted to the regulatory authority of the Netherlands, the Medicines Evaluation Board, between 1997 and 2003, were reviewed for occurrence of suicide and attempted suicide. "


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15800158

The selling of bipolar disorder stresses that the disorder takes a fearsome toll of suicides...

Yet, the best available evidence shows that unmedicated patients with bipolar disorder do not have a higher risk of suicide...

http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.0030185


Evidence and facts not marketing and lies.

Copy_Cat wrote:

katierosemason1989 wrote:Its needed. For those twenty or so horror stories, there are millions that were needed!! And if those people didnt have forced psychiatry they would havew committed suicide.

Realy ?

How do you know ?

Did you ever read this study ?

These are good questions that cannot be answered easily - if it is even possible. Basically, suicide rates are not always correlated with general symptom reduction. It is a BIG leap to say that any symptom reduction for any number of people justifies the death of 20 or so people. The leap is big becuase it puts a value on life in terms of the quality of life for others. In other words, you're saying that making life more enjoyable (which may not be true) by using meds is more important than the lives of 20 or so people. Bet you wouldn't want to be one of the unlucky ones right? But then again, when faced with a life on meds, it's hard to say who the lucky ones were.

I have been subjected to abuse from the psychiatric system for six years now and it absolutely disgusts me. How can people as young as thirteen be treated in such a way I will never know. I have been restrained and injected with drugs such as haloperidol and lorazpam more times than I can count. Psychiatrists are pure poison and should be out of the job. They get PAID to do this to people and it's wrong on every level. I have been sectioned three times in secure psychiatric units because the doctors think I have a "psychotic illness". I wonder what would have happened if I didn't return to the ward - they would have got the police to kick down my door and drag me back to the hospital. I don't know how/why things like this happen to people who have done nothing to deserve it therefore I am strongly against services, doctors, nurses and therapists always will be.

Hurricane and a number of other people who have replied to this topic are absolutely right.

I too am a survivor of psychiatry. I was physically attacked by psychiatric nurses and threatened with injection and criminal charges if I defended myself. I reported this to the psychiatrist in charge of the ward, and she just said in an uncaring tone, "Okay, I'll handle it."

I won't get into particulars, but psychiatry nearly ruined my life. They inflicted trauma on me merely because I was acting abnormally. Psychiatrists are criminals and should be locked up. It doesn't matter that they are acting within the bounds of the law. Nazis were also acting within the bounds of the government's laws.

We need to take action instead of just talking about it on the internet.

Kenneth wrote:We need to take action instead of just talking about it on the internet.

I agree, but I don't know what to do. Any ideas?

Ian Reynir wrote:

Kenneth wrote:We need to take action instead of just talking about it on the internet.

I agree, but I don't know what to do. Any ideas?

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Some say forced psychiatric treatment is needed when someone is a "risk to others". What exactly do psychiatrists mean? In my case I am not a violent person, but when your locked up in a secure enviroment being followed at arms length, restrained and drugged on a daily basis is there any wonder people get violent? I have attacked nurses before, but they are keeping me prisoner so what do they expect?? Psychiatric hospitals can drive someone into insanity even if they were fine before, restraining clothes off an abuse victim...forcing a tube up a patients nose, injecting them with dangerous drugs.. where does the brutality stop in this system