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countrys with worst rights for mental illness?

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Re: countrys with worst rights for mental illness?

Postby Devilock » Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:22 am

I think your right in a way 1013, we should not use labeling, its a way of putting someone in a box they might not want to be described as. As you may have noted , allot of us use the words "mental illness" With brackets around it, for eg. saying this is how 'they' say it, but we don't really believe that term.
Yes there are allot of ppl that experience extreme states, or 'life problems' (szaz) - have u read Thomas szaz? thats how he describes it. I feel quite comfortable using extreme states, but I am sure that one day that will too be taken over by the big guns.
Sometime ppl really are trying to hurt themselves.
I also agree that No one should have to have a first line treatment of psychiatry and being locked away. I believe that places like soteria would be awesome, even better places set in beautiful surroundings would be even better, the patients would have total choice and hopefully be full peer run (as in true peer run not copy peer like we've been hearing about), as the govt tries to copy everything and make it its own, its safer version so it can make money/whatever off of it, certain investments not always monetory come into it too, power play. But a place where u are asked what u need, or if u needed in home care, one or 2 peers could come to your house and help, meds should NOT be a first line treatment but rather a last line treatment in my opinion.
I have found ppl just need someone to talk to about whats going on and to advocate from a position of 'power' ( because yes that's how society works) for them. SO many more ideas too ive got. I don't believe there is anything that exists like real mental illness, just a more serious case of problems.
I have talked to some ppl years ago, they had nothing to do with psychiatry and they were saying 'schizophrenia is just when ppl have so much hurt inside them, that that's how it comes out of them', beautiful I though, that is so true for all survivors/consumers /whatever, I believe that, its just a way of hurt coming out and it was not so long ago gay ppl were treated with psych treatments, we can do this guys! Let the world know that ppl in pain do not need to be tortured or that there is something wrong with THEM! Its external forces that hurt them!!!
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