Crazyboards forum cencorship disorder

did you get banned too copy_cat?

something really funny going on there the way they push the medical model, like its window into what it means to be a compliant and perfect patient that buys everything a psychiatrist stands for..

Mods and some members like to play doctors and nurses with people and recreated the scene of clinical oppression and attitudes of professionals in dealing with the mentally ill to put pills down your neck, yeah they can only say go to a doctor and get your meds tweaked [with attitude] like I got advised to get my meds tweaked for my thought disorder because It didn't make sense since I have a problem with the industry of psychiatry, made for a really hostile environment to express myself that I was over conscious of being seen as having thought disorder....

I like how they claim that guy spiritual emergency was muddled and causing a problem with his immature reactiveness [however they worded it], how about they take a look at themselves, they like to project the problem onto the person deemed anti-psychiatric, they were being really rude to him totally childish yet they had the mods on side so they acted like wanks and got praise for it...They'll never learn they have their heads so far up elvis's arse in a world of ignorance and enforce that ignorance and blind reliance on incompetent quacks.

it makes sense that crazyboards has an agenda with the drug industries or some front group, especially since they project this onto wayward members having an agenda if it is anti-ignnorance deemed anti-psychitry and not pro enough medication.

The mods were claiming on a topic "are our brains shirking' and claimed that drugs help as neuroprotective for the hypothesis that psychosis causes brain damage... they are all about perr reveiwed scientific #######4 yet I asked for some evidence that the drugs are neuroprotective with the usual caution as not to cause them alarm of being anti-psychiatry...I couldnt find any evidence and they never replied.....Fairly typical of wishfull thinking like the drugs are like some magic elixir for mental illness, but its based on hype not science....like most people know the opposite is mostly true and been discovered fairly recently, yet this info would be considered biased research by crazybaords and they do all they can to ignore it, just like a mirror for the rest of the establishment that enforces drug model sucking up to the drug industries.

Razael wrote:did you get banned too copy_cat?

I guess I was banned, months ago when I was told to f-off on the chat board for saying "forget meds, what about human rights" I just closed the whole window without replying. My screen name and password didnt work day before yesterday.

Anyway that velvet elvis you like so much claims to have a diagnosis Aspergers syndrome, although there are many possible symptoms of Aspergers , the main symptom is severe trouble with social situations.

Symptoms include:
Difficulty making friends
An inflexible attitude toward change
Appear to lack empathy
Avoids eye contact or stares at others...

That could explain his behavoir as the administrator of crazyboards. Dont let it get to you.

Razael wrote:The mods were claiming on a topic "are our brains shirking' and claimed that drugs help as neuroprotective for the hypothesis that psychosis causes brain damage... they are all about perr reveiwed scientific BS yet I asked for some evidence that the drugs are neuroprotective with the usual caution as not to cause them alarm of being anti-psychiatry...I couldnt find any evidence and they never replied.

"Neuroprotective" ? The withdrawal symptoms of anti-psychotics include psychosis ! I know I lived it. Psychosis I didnt have BEFORE taking them. Its was more like sales protective for the drug maker cause I couldent just stop taking them without the insomnia from hell keeping me awake until psychosis set in.

there is evidence that the meds cause brain volume problems, it only makes sense that we aren't using our brains in a normal way when on meds so something gonna atrophy, including coping mechanisms that are healthy and way to deal with stress without it leading to psychosis. I also find that there is some merit in dealing and recovering from psychotic condition or else it will leave a hole and one day need to deal with those conflicts again to find a resolution that the drugs block mostly from lazy psychiatrists that just see it as a symptom yet avenues for psychotherapy..I also had problem with withdrawals, was only ever put on antipsychotics because sleep deprivation and panic attacks but in the clinical setting once they gave me sleepers right before I had interview with quack he claimed I was preoccupied with the medication and paranoid [because I had a near lethal injection once and had been remembering it among other trauma that was keeping me awake] none of the insight into sleep deprivation was taken into consideration or the effect of the benzo blunting and slowing my thinking to an uncomfortable level...so already I had paranoid symptoms thought blocking [self referenced through side effects] I was compliant and the drugs made me sick, stayed on them for a year then onto zelldox and it was a nightmare causing sleep problems and the same quack only put my dose up to make me sleepy, heart problems I did detox and yeah lucuid dreaming set in and focus on astral world[ maladaptive daydreaming] some self-transcendence and traumatic memories that I dreamed about and had fantasy about characters involved and some other figures rocked up to keep me awake...bla, I already talked about it on this forum.

Was released earlier from zeldox withdrawal episode by not taking oral meds, it was in my favour and still think it has helped me....I plan to use ayurvedic herbs for possible problems coming off antipsychotics in the future, wrote a topic called "Herbs" about it, currently searching for herbs that may improve my mind like rhodiola and mucuna pruriens that boost dopamine although it is almost useless considering antipsychotics are overkill.

I doubt my plans hold any validity for my review for being an involuntary community treated subject...they are doing their best to ensure me that I have a mental illness but I not giving way so much, they hook me up with the most athiest and biased people because I have spiritual preoccupation and find meaning in my life, yet they use reference that I have spiritual delusions....

nothing to do with crazyboards..I did read since that elvis had a drug induced psychosis that acted like a catalyst...I notice some of the moderators including vapourware are self diagnosing with asbergers yet they are medicated schizophrenics [doh, I don;t usually support the notion that someone has a particular mental illness, I think its a myth to a large extent, so much variability in cases like mine that I can explain with concepts like self-transcendence, spiritual emergency, mystical experience, maladaptive daydreaming , or some strange occurance of post traumatic stress that triggers dreaming and stress sleep deprivation from flashbacks and repressed memories of past hospital admissions that linked into traumatic life threatening events that I blockedd out of my memory or used coping mechanisms like humour dissocociation or even self-transendence...one specific episode linked into an attempt on my life that I let some guys put me in a noose they lifted me up and left me to die but I got myself down and treated it like a joke..yet later something made me feel like my life was in danger and someone wanted me dead and misunderstood physical symptoms feeling like a noose was around my neck because I forgot about it...remembering that was a real shock to me and I dreamed that what if I actually died and remembered them saying where they were going to bury me and $#%^, was really hard on me to remember with my matured reference to guarding my mortality, I felt cheated and got preoccupied with misdiagnosis and psychiatric $#%^ and things all together stressing me ended back on antipsychotics after substantial time recovered from mental illness, yet still family dynamics were influenced and I hated it, felt like divorcing my family yet they are the only ppl who care so felt intense fear of isolation and contemplation of a life without my family because of psychiatry.

hey pardon me I put it out there again the reason I landed back in the grip of psychiatric treatment orders with diagnosis of schizoaffective [because I elevated myself to deal with the #######4 of clinical practice and forced medications , I knew damn well that I would recover better without if not to my advantage for lifestyle factors]..therefore considered a compliance risk b ecause I know better then psychiatry, and because I think I know better then psychiatry i'm considered grandeurish and because I think I consider myself to have greater insight then being put in a box as being psychotic and having a brain disease I'm considered to have zero insight because they use a reference that I am schizophrenic therefore anything that comes out of my mouth is likely to be delusion....

I have a right to be angry at psychiatry for not identifying the spiritual nature of my episodes, the are highly energetic and like personal revolution,,or self-transcendence which is a personality trait.

I believe there is a spiritual misunderstanding surrounding mental illness, and I'm glad that you pointed this out.

Razael wrote: ... and yeah lucuid dreaming set in and focus on astral world[ maladaptive daydreaming] some self-transcendence and ...

The "astral world" is a very interesting place to visit, but you put "maladaptive daydreaming" in the same sentence. I'm not sure what you mean. I have mystic training and the astral plane holds much for anyone who wishes to explore it. I have had plenty of experience while on meds as well as off of meds.

Razael wrote: ...I can explain with concepts like self-transcendence, spiritual emergency, mystical experience, maladaptive daydreaming , ...

I like your idea of "self-trancendence" - might I add the transcendent experienc that Maslow introduced in which we may have "peak experiences" that are beyond the norm, but part of the "real" or sacred as Eliade would explain so elloquently.

Razael wrote:I have a right to be angry at psychiatry for not identifying the spiritual nature of my episodes, the are highly energetic and like personal revolution,,or self-transcendence which is a personality trait.

I totally agree that the medical community fails miserably to respect us "mentally ill" the way that shamanic peoples respeced our folk back in the day. In those days, we would be treated as healers and spiritually significant people, but now we are defined as crazies, and thus, we are often sedated through chemistry...

thanks for the reply..I guess I put maladaptive daydreaming in the same sentence as I am still fairly unfamiliar with the astral realm and not sure how much is actually maladaptive daydreaming or Fantasy Prone personality, plus I'm using it as I though an educated psychiatrist would relate to it more then my depiction that I have explored astral realm, I find it is quite dynamic, my astral projections weren't of physical reality but some other world, I wondered how much this other world was simply part of my fantasy and daydreaming [not hallucination like a quack might misunderstand, they arent qualified to understand this kind of thing and would say its schizophrenia]...Some experiences I wrote about in "voices or the Devil" are more specific to interaction with angels and goddess's imaginary friends and Jesus etc...I'm fairly new to identifying with it as astral phenomena, but have always been aware of dreaming as in dream world inflicting waking consciousness hence maladaptive daydreaming that a psychiatrist would ignorantly deem to be a symptom of schizophrenia like everything else...I expect they would consider the astral world to be a hallucination depending on how one describes what it means, it wouldn't make sense or it would be a delusion.

Thanks for suggesting the shamanic crisis, psychosis can be highly transcending improvement to self identified obstacles for full appreciation and life purpose as a mystic, maybe I'm hesitant to consider myself a mystic or these attributes are drowned by medications and battling psycho-education intended for me t accept that I'm a schizophrenic, don;t see the point other then to limit mysellf and self -image and probably future compliance things.

You are lucky to be able to have experience of astral phenomena while on medication, all I've had since my last hospital admin is angry thoughts I shape shif tmy astral form into a monster, but I think it is a gift from the gods --like I want to inflict something onto my treating team and the psychiatric profession in general but not sure how to use it effectively

voices or the devil post978222.html#p978222 if anyone interested

Its useless to explain to a psychiatrist the idea of shamanic crisis and "Religious and Spiritual Problems" to express insight to the spiritual nature that comes across as psychotic... if anything it comes across as grandeur or spiritual delusion from my experience even though there has been work done to identify spiritual emergencies and it isn't a delusion [maybe delusion to explain psychosis as a spiritual event as a psychiatrist is educated that psychosis is a debilitating brain injury that only gets worse without medication [thanks drug companies for your influence on reality], which is a myth since it is known that 50-80percent of psychotics will recover with benefit to their pre-episode functioning with the right environment or at least treated with a dose of respect and humility.

Razael wrote:... it is known that 50-80percent of psychotics will recover with benefit to their pre-episode functioning with the right environment or at least treated with a dose of respect and humility.

I would not doubt this figure, but I'm not sure what you base it on. I think the number could be even higher than 80% given the right education was available. I'm searching for goos refs on this sort of thing - thanks.

John Weir Perry fixed 85percent, he wrote some books but don't believe he released any official studies...I guess loren mosher studies would show a considerable recovery rate but some used neuroleptics, just the point that they can be used effectively very short term not really intended for long term or relapse prevention as they actually cause more relapse..... There is a good paper on how the first studies with antipsychotics showed the placebo had the best long term prognosis. I think its on this link http://psychrights.org/research/Digest/ ... oDrugs.pdf, the psychrights site has more similar studies.... There is a really good madinamerica link that I put on crazyboards and of course got bashed for it being antipsychiatry and biased however it is objective it has all the WHO studies and things about supersensitivity psychosis http://www.madinamerica.com/2010/04/schizophrenia/

I got the stats from the page spiritual_emergency got banned from crazyboards for, don;t have my hands on the link it only had quotes from a series of researchers with stats that seemed to range from 50percent to over 80percent...here it is http://spiritualrecoveries.blogspot.com ... -hope.html maybe you could research some of the names to get more information.

Good luck finding it, seems psychiatrists are slow to take up the idea that psychosis has a likely recovery without the drugs, or at least they should be more carefull and use more sparingly.

This page comes up when you search crazyboards on the first page of google lol