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Just want to get a gun and threaten people with it

Postby Sneako Sizzle » Sat Aug 14, 2010 2:11 am

The people that are really making me upset are ones on the internet. I know this is not nice but I feel like getting a gun and driving over to wherever they are and threaten them until they do what I want them to do. I'm not getting my way at all. I just feel this way and know this is not normal but I'm that frustrated. I wouldn't shoot anybody or kill anybody but I just feel like this.
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Re: Just want to get a gun and threaten people with it

Postby ciqala » Sat Aug 14, 2010 8:16 am

Sneako Sizzle wrote:The people that are really making me upset are ones on the internet. I know this is not nice but I feel like getting a gun and driving over to wherever they are and threaten them until they do what I want them to do. I'm not getting my way at all. I just feel this way and know this is not normal but I'm that frustrated. I wouldn't shoot anybody or kill anybody but I just feel like this.


Well it sounds like you are not violently angry, but your thoughts are. After i solved my angry violence, i had to learn to deal with the thoughts. At first it was a viscous battle of me fighting inside my mind, arguing against the immoral thoughts until, if it came down to, i passed out.
The ignoring an angry person tactic never worked for me, it made my anger worse. I always wanted to problem solve, but i came to realize my problem solving could not happen until i calmed down and was thinking logically. Sometimes i had to force myself to jump out of moving vehicles in the middle of a fight with someone because they would not shut up when i warned them i would kill them if they kept talking. I know now it sounds like a threat, but sometimes, you do have to warn people to not set you off, and when they don't, you have to leave. Most times they won't, they get defensive. So you have to learn to escape the situation, no matter how hard it is.
Writing out everything, even the profanities and bad things, helped me to get it all out in better ways. Yes, i would write a hate letter, wishing horrible things to the other person, but at least, i would be able to calm down after it all, enough to later recognize what problems were evident, and what problems were delusional.
I used to have extreme anger problems, and i also am a diagnosed psychopath (anti social personality disorder) so i'm sure if i can overcome it, anyone can.

It takes alot of self awareness and admitting things you will hate to admit about yourself. The common thing in angry people, is that the anger stems from something we may not like to accept about ourselves - something that threatens us in any general area, for example fear, security, self esteem, ect.
For example "not having your way", what does that really bring up for you, what does it really mean. I don't mean to sound like a therapist here, but how does it make you really feel? Anger is just a mask to the real emotion, therefore the real problem beneath it all.
The out of control feeling is just a mask as well. If you were really doing well, bad things could happen, and you could still react positively. Since you can't, it means there is something underneath it all that bothers you.
For me personally, i used to think my anger was just me being more powerful than the other person, i was just an evil sonofabiatch, but once i dissected the real thing, i found out, "i am not powerful, i am just acting this way to feel powerful, in fact i am only threatened by the opponent, be it a person or a situation, so i have to prove to myself through anger or violence that i am in control and more powerful over the situation. )
Sometimes the easiest way to be heard or dominate someone is to use force, or to scare them half to death. But there are lots of other alternatives.

Take a breather from the situation. (When angry, your mind is not thinking logically. Things are in black and white extreme thinking.
Go to sleep. In the morning things might look clearer.
Come back to the problem only when you are able to think clearly enough to problem solve.
There are always other alternatives to solve problems.
Distract yourself from hashing over grudges. In time they lessen.
If it comes down to it, cut out the things that are making you angry. Leave them alone. Forever if you have to. But before anything rash, make sure you know what causes the angry things (and don't focus on the obvious, it's never the obvious obstacle in front, there's something else.)

For me, a lot of the times, my strange belief of karma got me through it. I would think "well if i can't kill them, i just hope karma will make them suffer for what they did." At least it's better than acting out.
Sometimes its better to remove yourself and run away from the situation when it means you are saving someones life.

I also took more polite and healthy revenge plans where applicable. For example i was furious at one of the tenants who lived with me for having me kicked out. In short, i investigated into her life, figured out she had some major defaults i could work with, got her fired from her job, (which was a good thing because she was insane and trying to foster children where she and they were unsafe to do so) and eventually, me , karma, and her issues led her to being kicked out as well. I could only take the steps to file complaints, and reports about her until i was sane, thinking logically and clear, and not angry anymore. In hectic situations where she would stage ridiculous scenes to have me kicked out, i realised if i got angry, or slaughtered a dead dog on her porch, my landlord would only agree with her. I could never win the easy way. So instead, i acted civil, polite, and talked to my landlord about the bad things she had done, and in the end he agreed she was a nutcase.
By the way, i never actually got kicked out (my landlord found another place for me to rent from him that was better), but i was still angry she won our war, because i had to act civil and leave like an adult. I would have rather stayed and fought, but in the end things worked out because i did the right thing. And now her life is a living hell and i feel kind of bad for wishing that upon her.
Another thing that helped me was learning how to debate, by delving into philosophy debates. I actually learned by going on online forums under philosophy and religion.

The rules of debating I use for my anger during difficult times in social situations (i use them in real life too):
- never act like a hostile immature child. Discuss things like a civil adult.
- Before debating (arguing) listen and weigh out the other side of the spectrum. Do my research. Learn everything i can about the other persons view. This helps in humbling myself to see if i am making a hostile mistake, and also to see if i can back up my argument in ways.
- when i act out in anger or immaturity it means i have lost the debate. it also means i have lost all my pride in being intelligent because now i am nothing but a moron griefer acting stupid. Not to mention, i have also lost any possibility of the other person or people taking me seriously. Only the person left standing acting maturely is viewed as the hero.
- this also means i had to get rid of my habit of talking in nothing but profanities to prove my point.
Ah yes, debating in philosophy transformed me into a civil human being. I thought the war would do the opposite, but it actually helped quite a lot. I learned all the ways in writing, how to argue properly, how to express, and especially how to switch my view and look at other sides of the spectrum, which means in other words, i learned how to have an open mind, thus... i am not as judgemental, not as quick to cause war for my view, instead i look at the other side first. From learning to write arguments, i quickly became judgmental towards myself and no longer wanted to act like an idiot, thus i transferred my knowledge into every day situations
A lot of other things helped me, but most of them were to curb my violent tendencies and i don't think those fit in your case.
For my personality disorder and the hostility which accompanied it which triggered my anger, i had to learn to accept the faults in people. At first it came as "giving them chances". But once you realize no one is perfect, you stop putting ridiculous expectations on them, that end up disappointing you in the end when they don't live up to them.
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