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Postby squid_lips » Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:54 pm

Hi,

Does anyone know of a schizoid therapeutic community?

It's been mentioned online that schizoids can actually benefit from living in a community setting for some time.

Can't find anything on Google.
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Re: schizoid therapeutic community

Postby orinoco » Wed Feb 15, 2023 1:07 pm

I doubt that living in a schizoid "therapeutic" community will be beneficial just as any other form of "therapy". Being schizoid is not the disease to be cured, but already the unconscious compensation strategy to a complex PTSD rooting in an early-childhood trauma. It's a natural reaction to an unnatural cause. So fighting being schizoid means fighting the symptoms, not the cause. By trying to "learn" being more socially adaptive you may cause more harm to yourself, increasing your chronic stress by being triggered from people who do not understand you. My advice: try to do it better by understanding yourself better, avoid toxic people and stressing situations, a pet (cat) is a much better companion to live with and to care for, do not avoid people completely but just look for the right ones: reliable, honest, attentive, and give the same back to them. I think this way you will "cure" yourself to the most possible degree.
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Re: schizoid therapeutic community

Postby squid_lips » Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:10 pm

Thanks.

I don't remember any childhood trauma, just remember being in a bit of a slightly parallel universe to the rest of the world.

I did receive some trauma at 15 or so.

Will try and understand me better.
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Re: schizoid therapeutic community

Postby orinoco » Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:53 pm

You never remember early childhood trauma as this happens between age 1½ when the amygdala goes "online" and age 3 when the hippocampus goes "online" (which is responsible for memory, time and place orientation etc.). This is the age of the emotional birth, when we were "sitting ducks" to trauma e.g. absence of primary caregiver (mom goes working again), neglect etc.. I strongly recommend the work of Bruce D. Perry and Bryan Post about (not) learning(!) emotional autoregulation during this period. You do learn this from your primary caregiver during this time or you never will. With age 3 time is over, the time window of our ontogenetic brain developement is closed. The japanese have a saying: Mitsugo no tamashii hyaku made. The soul of a three year old stays with him a hundred years.
You personally can only find out about early childhood trauma indirectly e.g. from relatives or family members what happened when you were that age, or how you remember the relation to your primary caregiver later emotionally: warm? cold? violent? busy all the time with job? neglect? clinging? Then it was probably before the same, when you needed your mother as an emotional teacher most.
What you remember age 15 is probably a re-trauma. Being traumatized you react much more when disturbing things happen e.g. death of a beloved family member/relative, separation from partner, car accident, catastrophy etc.
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Re: schizoid therapeutic community

Postby squid_lips » Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:31 pm

Thank you, very insightful.

I remember being misunderstood in childhood.

I had an identity crisis at age 15, and that might of been the time when symptoms of the feeling of invisible cobwebs appearing on my nose and cheeks started.

In university, this turned into a sensation of the skin of my nose and cheeks crawling when I was around people, made worse with eye contact.

It made socializing incredibly painful, and I isolated myself as much as possible in uni.

Entering the workforce was a shock, I had little social confidence or competence, or a strong sense of self. I had to quit due to social anxiety and stress.

This lead to depression.

I've never been a socially confident adult, and my career has suffered greatly because of this.

Anyhow, I appreciate your insight and help a lot, it makes a difference.

Thank you.
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Re: schizoid therapeutic community

Postby orinoco » Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:19 pm

You're welcome.
Becoming the private investigator of your psyche may be the most intriguing insight journey of your life. And it's "therapy" itself as it is pure self-efficacy and self-empowerment. With knowledge about phylogenetic and ontogentic brain development and the comparison between "neurotypical" brain development and trauma you will see the world with completely different eyes, seeing all the things that are invisible to 99,9% of humankind, including almost all psychotherapists.
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