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Were we supposed to do something?

Postby Ashlar » Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:11 am

Current world situation, relationships with people in the past, I see a bunch of things I should have acted about. I didn't. I generally wouldn't. In some cases I tried, but was largely ignored.
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Re: Were we supposed to do something?

Postby iabsurdlyexist » Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:13 am

Indifference to life situation? Some things just don't move me like they would others. Other things are anxiety provoking. I have stood up a few times and people took notice. The benefit of being the quiet one who usually only has something to say when it's important. I don't recall me being very pertinent in most of life's situations.
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Re: Were we supposed to do something?

Postby naps » Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:06 pm

The world needs dreamers, I guess.

Everything you do causes a ripple effect that changes the world. Even the most seemingly insignificant effect matters. The same goes for the things you don't do. Inaction in itself can produce a result. In this respect, intentions don't matter. Failures usually happen for a reason.

Or is this about regret?
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Re: Were we supposed to do something?

Postby Holodeck » Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:08 pm

Ah, the bystander effect. Maybe I'm not sure if this has become worse with technology. In many ways, I know this has helped people if the individuals are motivated enough. On the whole, however, I think other expect someone else to step in or assume no guilt because everyone else isn't so it'll make them be awkwardly put into the spotlight.
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Re: Were we supposed to do something?

Postby emillionth » Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:30 pm

Current world situation, relationships with people in the past and so on and so forth make me feel more justified than ever in my belief that I have no obligation to participate in society or to live my life in any particular way.
Is this now?
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Re: Were we supposed to do something?

Postby Holodeck » Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:01 pm

Ah yes, I misread that bit. Still I believe at a smaller scale that It's a bit of the same. Acting upon something can end badly so why do anything when the other person/people involved could step up to the plate. Naturally it concretes the feels of not wanting to bother to take part/fail when one has been shot down before.
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Re: Were we supposed to do something?

Postby naps » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:25 pm

OK, I get this thread now.

Holodeck wrote:Acting upon something can end badly so why do anything when the other person/people involved could step up to the plate. Naturally it concretes the feels of not wanting to bother to take part/fail when one has been shot down before.


Low self-esteem much?

You put out a lot of ideas that are interesting, Holodeck. You should inflict them upon the world. People with SPD are conceptually and/or intellectually evolved. The world needs us.

Ashlar wrote:Current world situation, relationships with people in the past, I see a bunch of things I should have acted about. I didn't. I generally wouldn't. In some cases I tried, but was largely ignored.


Are you 100% sure of this?
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Re: Were we supposed to do something?

Postby Ashlar » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:48 pm

naps wrote:Are you 100% sure of this?


Very little is ever certain.

My brother was likely involved in weird sex things with a kid who was likely being abused by someone. I told adults about this, and they insisted it wasn't happening. Actually there's a lot of stories like that with that brother.

The other brother has schizophrenia and is hospitalized and I've really done nothing for him.

Several grandparents and parents with problems. My thankfully dead narcissistic uncle did a lot of damage to people.

And the several stories of people I met later in life and I wanted to throw them a rope to get out of their pits, but that eventually made me the enemy because I wasn't telling them what they wanted to hear.
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Re: Were we supposed to do something?

Postby Holodeck » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:58 pm

naps wrote:Low self-esteem much?


The way you word this sounds like you're saying I have low self-esteem. That confuses the dickens out of me. Were you meaning they do? I believe they do.

naps wrote:You put out a lot of ideas that are interesting, Holodeck. You should inflict them upon the world. People with SPD are conceptually and/or intellectually evolved. The world needs us.


Thanks. I try my best to annoy people by doing that. I'm taking the above as a compliment rather than sarcasm (which feels weird on this forum.) :P

Ashlar wrote:Current world situation, relationships with people in the past, I see a bunch of things I should have acted about. I didn't. I generally wouldn't. In some cases I tried, but was largely ignored.


Sometimes there's nothing that will be done and that is hard to go through. I understand how hard it is to have something that close make one not want to bother afterward. I wish I could give a better answer here but I believe you stepping forward was a good thing. It's hard for many adults to take kids seriously when they don't want to hear it but whether they believed or not, it would plant unsureness about someone they should watch out for even if they had no first-hand proof of their own.
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Re: Were we supposed to do something?

Postby naps » Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:53 pm

Holodeck wrote:
naps wrote:Low self-esteem much?


The way you word this sounds like you're saying I have low self-esteem. That confuses the dickens out of me. Were you meaning they do? I believe they do.


Who they? I wouldn't know if you have low self-esteem. I'm guessing you don't. What I meant was that your statement sounded self-defeating. If there ever was a group of people who will never change the world, it's us, but sitting back and just watching things go to $#%^ doesn't sound right either. I try to do my part by never underestimating any influence I can have on people, particularly impressionable people. The only world I can change is my own, but I'm not very good at that either.

Sitting back and letting things happen is fine, but if those things are to your own detriment, then sitting back becomes more than a psychological problem.

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naps wrote:You put out a lot of ideas that are interesting, Holodeck. You should inflict them upon the world. People with SPD are conceptually and/or intellectually evolved. The world needs us.


Thanks. I try my best to annoy people by doing that. I'm taking the above as a compliment rather than sarcasm (which feels weird on this forum.) :P


No sarcasm at all. I usually indicate sarcasm with an eye roll, unless I'm trying to insult someone. :D

Ashlar wrote:Very little is ever certain.

My brother was likely involved in weird sex things with a kid who was likely being abused by someone. I told adults about this, and they insisted it wasn't happening. Actually there's a lot of stories like that with that brother.

The other brother has schizophrenia and is hospitalized and I've really done nothing for him.

Several grandparents and parents with problems. My thankfully dead narcissistic uncle did a lot of damage to people.

And the several stories of people I met later in life and I wanted to throw them a rope to get out of their pits, but that eventually made me the enemy because I wasn't telling them what they wanted to hear.


My experience, which I don't think is rare, is that getting involved in family matters is like jumping into a pit of snakes.

But generally, when you're an oddball, taking the first step or even just making a move can often be misinterpreted. Usually negatively so.

If I ask myself, "Am I living the life I want?", I prefer to just say yes. Did I do everything I wanted/set out to do? Hell no. But that's true of most people.

You are what you do. I'm a dreamer. Mission accomplished.
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