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Re: Asperger's and Pedophilia??

Postby shock_the_monkey » Sat Oct 25, 2014 11:36 am

YouthRightsRadical wrote:We do have different terms, you ######6 jackass.

Pedophile - An adult who is sexually attracted to children.

Child molester - An adult who molests children.

... what part of the above did you NOT understand? do not answer that, by the way, as i am just being sarcastic! there is NO differentiation between those that do and those that do not sexually abuse children. they are both sexually attracted to children and therefore both paedophiles.

i will paraphrase Elizabeth I here: it is not for anyone to make windows in to other peoples' sexualities. and i have no wish to do so either.

however, when you insist on using a term that you know that the general public find repugnant to define yourselves, you are not exactly doing yourselves any favours.

now, i am done here. thank you so much for the warm welcome! more sarcasm, by the way! i will endeavour never to return.
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Re: Asperger's and Pedophilia??

Postby YouthRightsRadical » Sat Oct 25, 2014 6:50 pm

shock_the_monkey wrote:there is NO differentiation between those that do and those that do not sexually abuse children. they are both sexually attracted to children and therefore both paedophiles.

That is wrong. The overwhelming majority of child molesters, roughly 90% aren't sexually attracted to children.

Here, let me provide some math, not really for the willfully ignorant like yourself, but for anyone who's reading this thread honestly:
Not only are pedophiles unlikely to rape children (in the same way heterosexual males are unlikely to rape women), but statistical evidence has shown that nonpedophiles are more than twice as likely to molest children than pedophiles are.

Don't believe me? I don't blame you. Here are the statistics.

FBI sex offender expert Kenneth Lanning stated in a 2001 interview that "About 90 percent [of child molesters] are so-called "situational child molesters" who capitalize on opportunities to molest children but don't necessarily prefer sex with children ... The 10 percent of child molesters who make up the second category are the bona fide "pedophiles," those who genuinely favor sex with children."

Here's the link to the interview:
http://web.archive.org/web/200306210027 ... phile.html

Lanning's figure is supported by various sources. Here is another source citing similar figures:
http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/nov ... _offenders

Studies of adult arousability has shown that pedophiles make up as much as 20-33% of the adult male population. 20% is the lowest number I've seen, but I haven't seen the actual study purporting this number. I have seen, and can link to the study purporting the 33% figure.

http://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/97 ... ticle.html

For those uninterested in reading the whole article, it was done using a number of volunteers, and measuring their arousal using a device attached to the penis as they were shown different materials. While 85% showed some arousal to pedophilic stimuli, in 33% of their test subjects, the arousal equaled or exceeded the arousal to adult stimuli.

Taking the conservative numbers together, the math works out as follows:

Pedophile molesters 10% < 90% Nonpedophile molesters

Pedophiles 20% < 80% Nonpedophiles

10/20 is then the proportion of pedophile molesters to pedophiles relative to the figure 90/80 that represents nonpedophile molesters to nonpedophiles

10/20 = .5 < 1.125 = 90/80

The proportion thus is 1 to 2.25, making a given nonpedophile more than twice as likely to molest a child as a given pedophile.
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Re: Asperger's and Pedophilia??

Postby 4RLM » Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:29 am

As someone who has difficulties with both Asperger's and Pedophilia (among other things), I am saddened that this thread turned into an argument instead of something that I may have found enlightening and helpful. Thanks to all who participated.
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Re: Asperger's and Pedophilia??

Postby skeleton-countess » Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:32 am

4RLM wrote:As someone who has difficulties with both Asperger's and Pedophilia (among other things), I am saddened that this thread turned into an argument instead of something that I may have found enlightening and helpful. Thanks to all who participated.

That's pretty normal for this forum, actually. We love arguing here :lol:
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Re: Asperger's and Pedophilia??

Postby Graveyard76 » Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:17 pm

skeleton-countess wrote:We love arguing here :lol:


No we don't!! Image
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Re: Asperger's and Pedophilia??

Postby skeleton-countess » Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:49 pm

Graveyard76 wrote:
skeleton-countess wrote:We love arguing here :lol:


No we don't!! Image

Seriously, they should rename this the "come on in and argue about pedophilia" forum :lol:
(I'm joking around, in case anyone wants to misinterpret this.)
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Re: Asperger's and Pedophilia??

Postby Graveyard76 » Sun Oct 26, 2014 6:27 pm

I don't argue. I simply explain to people why they're wrong. :wink:
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Postby rainbowstar » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:41 pm

DeepThinks wrote:Re: Asperger's and Pedophilia??

Here's a lead for you,

"Judith Reisman president of the Institute for Media Education and author of Kinsey, Sex and Fraud; ... and the explosive 1998 exposé Kinsey: Crimes & Consequence, is currently on tour giving presentations which includes her research on Oxytocin. She has allowed me to use words from one of her slides included in her powerpoint presentation. The slide states:

Now a Pedophile/Pederast Drug of Choice: “Sex hormone…..Aimed at Autistic Children” ...“Oxytocin""

http://vactruth.com/2011/11/30/love-hor ... ns-autism/
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Re: Asperger's and Pedophilia??

Postby shock_the_monkey » Sun Nov 02, 2014 4:21 am

YouthRightsRadical wrote:
shock_the_monkey wrote:there is NO differentiation between those that do and those that do not sexually abuse children. they are both sexually attracted to children and therefore both paedophiles.

That is wrong. The overwhelming majority of child molesters, roughly 90% aren't sexually attracted to children.

Here, let me provide some math, not really for the willfully ignorant like yourself, but for anyone who's reading this thread honestly:

... nicely taken completely out of context. i did not say that all people that sexually abuse children are paedophiles. i said some paedophiles do sexually abuse children and some do not. so, stop pretending that i am being wilfully ignorant when it is you that is twisting everything to suit your own purposes. and if you do not understand that, perhaps you will understand this ...

Some sources report that most offenders who have sexually abused a prepubescent child are pedophiles,[19] but some offenders who have sexually abused a prepubescent child do not meet the clinical diagnosis standards for pedophilia.[20][21]

... in other words, some do. QED.

and absolutely nothing that you say will ever be likely to change the fact that, as far as most people are concerned, paedophilia is synonymous with child sexual abuse. and getting back to my original point, which you keep conveniently overlooking, i would not wish to label anyone a paedophile unless they were guilty of child sexual abuse, precisely because of that fact.

so, stop being so pretentious. stop denying reality. and stop wrongfully insulting people too. and try reading the bit where i paraphrase Elizabeth I again. i do not care about anyone's sexuality. it is their business, not mine. but no one is going to tell me that that black is white. and to try to deny that people in general have a particular perception of the term 'paedophile' is nothing but absurd.
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Postby shock_the_monkey » Sun Nov 02, 2014 5:30 am

rainbowstar wrote:
DeepThinks wrote:Re: Asperger's and Pedophilia??

Here's a lead for you,

"Judith Reisman president of the Institute for Media Education and author of Kinsey, Sex and Fraud; ... and the explosive 1998 exposé Kinsey: Crimes & Consequence, is currently on tour giving presentations which includes her research on Oxytocin. She has allowed me to use words from one of her slides included in her powerpoint presentation. The slide states:

Now a Pedophile/Pederast Drug of Choice: “Sex hormone…..Aimed at Autistic Children” ...“Oxytocin""

http://vactruth.com/2011/11/30/love-hor ... ns-autism/

... yes, there is almost certainly a link between autism and oxytocin, much as there is a link between depression and serotonin. however, i think the concerns expressed in the above are a little too negative. if supplementing oxytocin allows those with autism to feel more emotionally at ease with the world, surely that ought to be viewed as beneficial. i candidly think that those that are unable to feel any emotion are in fact more vulnerable than those that can. and through my own experience, i know which i much prefer.
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