covertunsure wrote:Has anyone had success or heard anything about transference-focused psychotherapy, pioneered by Otto Kernberg, for NPD and/or NPD with BPD traits (or the other way around)? I'm looking into this. Unfortunately, it looks like it requires 2-3 sessions per week, which in my city would probably amount to about $2,000 per month. Ridiculously unaffordable. But I'm curious about any feedback anyone might have?
Akuma wrote:covertunsure wrote:Has anyone had success or heard anything about transference-focused psychotherapy, pioneered by Otto Kernberg, for NPD and/or NPD with BPD traits (or the other way around)? I'm looking into this. Unfortunately, it looks like it requires 2-3 sessions per week, which in my city would probably amount to about $2,000 per month. Ridiculously unaffordable. But I'm curious about any feedback anyone might have?
Last time I checked the few comparative studies about TFT implied that TFT is inferior to Mentalization-Based-Treatment and Schema-Focused-Therapy. Which is better for you personally I assume we won't know. I think to remember I told you to check out MBT years ago...? Dont know anymore.
Afaik TFT itself is for BPD and needs some modification for NPD.
Can you list which types of therapies you already aborted and maybe why?
I'm asking - also - because I remember from a phase where I was lookin at therapy types a lot but not moving an inch towards actually doing therapy.
covertunsure wrote:You've never pursued therapy? I thought you mentioned once that you were in therapy.
covertunsure wrote:Made an appointment with a more reasonably priced TFP therapist for next Tuesday. He seems nice and I'm excited to try an entirely new modality of psychotherapy. So far it's mostly been CBT or unstructured talk therapy. We'll see how it goes. I don't think I can afford the 2x per week "requirement," but he said I could still derive some value from 1x per week.
Akuma wrote:covertunsure wrote:Made an appointment with a more reasonably priced TFP therapist for next Tuesday. He seems nice and I'm excited to try an entirely new modality of psychotherapy. So far it's mostly been CBT or unstructured talk therapy. We'll see how it goes. I don't think I can afford the 2x per week "requirement," but he said I could still derive some value from 1x per week.
Cool. Do they also have long waiting times? Or is the side effect of their ridiculous pricing that you could start immediately? Just curious as I waited here about 14 months after my first contact.
covertunsure wrote:I'm in the US, where the good mental health providers (not to mention many/most top doctors) are almost all private pay. A small number take insurance, but often that's for a reason--'cuz they're not that in-demand (and thus maybe not that great, or just not good marketers). So yep, since it's private pay, I can start as soon as they have availability.
Akuma wrote:covertunsure wrote:I'm in the US, where the good mental health providers (not to mention many/most top doctors) are almost all private pay. A small number take insurance, but often that's for a reason--'cuz they're not that in-demand (and thus maybe not that great, or just not good marketers). So yep, since it's private pay, I can start as soon as they have availability.
Yea I thought so. Well that's a good side effect then.
I lol'd at "marketers". That makes you sound really American. Therapy-marketing. lol.
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