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Re: Do Narcissists feel Empathy for other Narcissists?

Postby Akuma » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:56 am

Yea, its a "strategy" my mom for example used and still uses. What I'm not sure of is where I read about the HPD subtype though, I think I read an excerpt once of Martin Kantors book on passive-aggressiveness. It does fit anyways, its a very annoying (to me as the observer at least) thing where a person uses illness, or their bad circumstances etc. to gather attention, as compared to the positive type that uses successes, their attractiveness or something else. When my mom was very unstable she would continously create new psychosomatic symptom variations and then call me and ask me if I knew what this was or if I had ever had that myself etc. :roll:
Can be quite infuriating because they're of course using you in their drama as a sort of involuntary spectator.
As to teh therapist, no clue. At least for laypeople its common I think ti throw around the illnesses and mix them up, but certain therapists who dont dal with such patients might do the same thing. I know my CBT therapist was not able to diagnose me at all heh.
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Re: Do Narcissists feel Empathy for other Narcissists?

Postby Arthur » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:12 pm

Depends

There are different ways a narcissist relates to other people (idealization, twinship transference, mirror transference)

If I am idealizing someone else and you criticize them, I will defend them because I would take your attack personally.

If I feel like someone is the same as me, I can definitely have empathy for them.

If I feel I am superior to someone, whether or not I have empathy will depend on whether I feel good/am getting supply. If I'm getting a lot of supply I will have empathy for the other person. If I'm not getting supply, I would be too focused on my own needs to think about the other person.
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Re: Do Narcissists feel Empathy for other Narcissists?

Postby Spaced » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:57 pm

I find overtly narcissistic characters quite annoying, in fact I dislike them intensely and can't imagine feeling empathy for them.
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Re: Do Narcissists feel Empathy for other Narcissists?

Postby kaloya123 » Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:26 pm

I fuc*ing hate other narcissists. :D :D :D
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Re: Do Narcissists feel Empathy for other Narcissists?

Postby MeAgain » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:57 am

I suppose we are likely to perceive an attack on someone like us as an attack on ourselves. When we compare ourselves to other narcissists it's still all about ourselves. Some empathy between narcissists is really just Borderline bonding and mutual codependency.
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Re: Do Narcissists feel Empathy for other Narcissists?

Postby Philonoe » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:39 am

Do Narcissists feel Empathy for other Narcissists?

It seems to me that the word "narcissist" covers a lot of different traits.

One of the m is giving importance to social status and its symbols.

In that sense, yes : people who give importance to social status seem to understand each other.

They know the acts, symbols, gestures that make each other comfortable.
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Re: Do Narcissists feel Empathy for other Narcissists?

Postby YourBestFriend » Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:01 pm

Absolutely not. Narcissists admire better narcisists and despise lower ones. Anyway looks like they may be caring but they are really not. The only thing they are concerned about is how they look compared.
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Re: Do Narcissists feel Empathy for other Narcissists?

Postby dibita » Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:38 pm

No. I don't 'feel' empathy for other people, if by that you mean sadness or care. I can understand on some level that someone is upset or happy or angry and why they are, but that doesn't necessarily lead to my happiness, or upset, or anger.

I think I've only felt poorly for another person twice in my life. One a colleague's kid was diagnosed with brain cancer. Another time I saw a video of a woman getting beat by her husband. It happens so rarely that I can actually remember the times it has happened.

Otherwise, I don't particularly care, even if I do understand why you're upset.

Especially not for other narcissists. I hate them. :D
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Re: Do Narcissists feel Empathy for other Narcissists?

Postby psyguy » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:13 pm

Yeah! Fictional narcissists at least.
There’s a really nice narc character in the Brazilian Netflix show 3% (Marco Alvarez).
I suppose I have more empathy for fictional characters in general though, less threatening/annoying than other real humans...
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Re: Do Narcissists feel Empathy for other Narcissists?

Postby LittleMissToxic » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:48 am

As a self aware narc, I abhor other narcs because I realize the emotionalal destruction we cause. We might lack empathy, but we don't want emotional pain of any sort.
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