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Morals...
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Morals...
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or consequence?
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or consequence?
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Postby needless_havok » Sun Jan 16, 2005 9:49 am


Everyone speaks of their so-called morals, as if they dictate their course of action. Honestly though... How many tymes've you wanted to do something, but failed to do so, 'cause you'd get in trouble, or you'll be fired, or you'll go to jail, etc. etc.? $#%^, with me that's the case 99% of the tyme, and from what I observe from those around me? It's the same case.
Are morals as present or even as relevant as we'd like to think they are, or is it simply more comforting to believe that the punk kid next door doesn't steal your car, because that would just be wrong, and he wouldn't be able to live with himself? What really controls our actions?
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Postby Irishgirl » Sun Jan 16, 2005 3:03 pm

I always go with moral values. It is the only thing that counts to me. I am the one I have to look in the mirror every morning. I have and would put my life at risk to always do the right thing, no matter what the consequences are.

I would go to jail, or die, to do what I search my heart and know is right.

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Postby Irishgirl » Sun Jan 16, 2005 3:14 pm

P.S. I don't believe that doing what is morally right is irrelavant. That will be a sad day. Look at all the many people who are helping victims in devastated Asia? That is morally right.
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Postby needless_havok » Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:29 pm

it's not a question of the importance of morals. my question is what fuels the actions of the majority of people in general. personally, i think it's consequences. i'm not denying that people have morals. i realize that people pitchin' in on helping those who're victim to a natural disaster is a nice thing to do. in the question of irrelevance, if people're more prone to doing things based on the consequences of their actions as oppossed to what they feel weighing over their choices, then morals would be less relevant than we think they are.
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Postby Irishgirl » Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:36 pm

I think most people work with both morals and consequences. But I am quite a bit older than you and have been down a longer road. I don't mean I have been through more than you, that might be debateable, but certainly I have met more people. I have seen both the good, the bad and the ugly. What is most disappointing to me is how people can change when they get a tiny bit of power, or even rub shoulders with power.
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Postby needless_havok » Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:44 pm

What is most disappointing to me is how people can change when they get a tiny bit of power, or even rub shoulders with power.

that's a good example of what i'm talkin' about.
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Postby Irishgirl » Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:46 pm

when people have power there are no consequences.
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Postby Irishgirl » Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:49 pm

I feel I have power, at least sometimes, but it comes from a sense of morality, not consequences.
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Postby needless_havok » Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:51 pm

there're always consequences. people with power may have less of them, but see... they do and get away with things based on that fact. their morals have nothing to do with it. see what i'm saying? i'm not talking about you.
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Postby Irishgirl » Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:54 pm

possessing a sense of morality means the power comes from the inside, not from outside influences. Indeed, I could have won a political possition, if I had been willing to play ball with the powerful bad boys (and girls).
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