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Re: why cant i stop??

Postby onthewagon » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:31 pm

I genuinely think the worst thing that can happen is a big win, it then gives you the belief that you can gamble yourself out of trouble. I won £15,000 online back in September and have now got debts of £40,000 trying to do it all over again. If you start gambling and it's all losses you'll never become addicted but that one big win has you gambling non stop trying to get youreslf out of trouble and the exact opposite happens.
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Re: why cant i stop??

Postby 58gambling » Fri Dec 25, 2015 12:38 am

onthewagon wrote:I genuinely think the worst thing that can happen is a big win, it then gives you the belief that you can gamble yourself out of trouble. I won £15,000 online back in September and have now got debts of £40,000 trying to do it all over again. If you start gambling and it's all losses you'll never become addicted but that one big win has you gambling non stop trying to get youreslf out of trouble and the exact opposite happens.


Sure; many of us addicts had a "big win" when we started. I have always maintained that it was the worst thing that could've happened. It's what hooks so many into addiction. Then one spends years and years losing, but always thinking the next big win is possible, even probable. It keeps you chasing and going deeper and deeper into the hole. I have a nephew who apparently sees gambling as "fun" and starting to indulge in trips to Vegas. I certainly hope he never has a "big win" because I fear it will trigger the addiction.
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Re: why cant i stop??

Postby piratebenn » Fri Dec 25, 2015 3:13 am

I put in £50 today and after 20 mins on slots on williamhill.com i had about £350, i had a lucky streak!
i shold of cashed out but i didnt,i had been drinking, but thats not always the case, at the end of the day, i am now £50 down becasue for whatever reason i didnt stop even tho i knew i should of.
Its really #######5 right afterwards eh.
why did i ust do that!
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Re: why cant i stop??

Postby gamblingsucks » Fri Dec 25, 2015 4:30 am

The mathematical and diabolical brilliance of gambling's hook is that, initial big win or not, it's easy to wind up in the poorhouse while absolutely believing you're winning all the time. After all, you probably are. It's just that you're also constantly losing a bit more money a bit more often.

"Even odds" such as 49-51 or 48-52 seem "good enough", but applied across time and enough money wagered, eventually mean billions of $ in the pockets of whatever house is offering the game.
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Re: why cant i stop??

Postby blue_green_lake » Fri Dec 25, 2015 5:16 am

If a computer program did a simulation of thousands of coin tosses, there would be runs where there deviations from expected probability (of .50 each). There could be 15 heads in a row or more. In the short run, the expected probability often does not hold.

What happens when a gambler wins, is a similar deviation from the expected probability. It makes the person excited. Like "oh wow, I was victorious!" The brain is tricked into thinking that winning over time is possible. But as Gamblingsucks notes, the expected value is on the side of the House. The more you gamble, the more this probability plays out. It is impossible to win over time. The only way to come out ahead is to win initially and never go back. (Or to be a very skilled and disciplined card counter in Blackjack, which is easier said than done, and has many associated lifestyle hazards.)
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Re: why cant i stop??

Postby willingtoquit » Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:36 am

guys.............

the only way you win is don't gamble, just don't do it.

gambling has almost ruined my life, but ive come to a point when enough was enough, its not easy and is in you for life but im determined to get "better"

gambling when a problem is devastating, no fun and effects everything you are and do.
total of my debt £10,900 as of 27/12 better than i thought
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Re: why cant i stop??

Postby LorenzoRob79 » Fri Feb 26, 2016 5:33 am

Hello fellow gamblers (Adam West voice)...

Well I have a lot to say...first lets lay down some of my basic gambling know-how.

Gambling is certainly an illness. In my opinion, there are a lot more people addicted to (and the chance of being potentially addicted to) gambling than society makes out or as people may think. As some people have said on here, it is just like heroin, smack, alcohol, sex, you name it...but its hidden, thats what makes it the most serious (mentally) addiction anyone can have in my opinion.

Think of it like playing your favourite video game when you were younger...it works the same way, you keep playing to win, and if you don't, you try again, until you get there. Its the same with gambling, except for one more thing that is involved, money. It's a game that you pay to play on the spot, pay per play, to try and accumulate more money, either fortunately with the chance of doing so (against the odds), or unfortunately with the chance of losing all your money (with the odds). On top of that lets face the truth that money is an extremely important value to us as humans, it buys us food, drink, possessions, shelter, transport to move around...all of the fundamental needs that allow us to survive in modern society, noting also that we are the only mammals on the planet to do this in such a complex and evolved way.

So what's my point in saying this ? My point is that money is no OBJECT, in real life terms. The problem with gamblers is that we treat money as an OBJECT, as numbers on a bank roll screen, chips on the roulette table, when really we should be looking at our money in a totally different way, as something that is just as important to us as our family, life, kids etc. The sooner we realise that money is not something to throw to a guy and say ''Hey, dealer, here is £1000, try and turn that into £2000 please...I know I may risk all my £1000 to selfishly gain another £1000, in which the odds are greatly against my favour (house edge) in the long run, but ill take the risk anyway''. You may win the first time you ever do this, or when you ever do in the future, but as we have discussed and as we all know, the feeling of the loss and/or win both equally puts us in a situation in which we want to gamble more, in a extremely addicting vicious circle. Thats where the problem starts, as soon as you put that money down on the table, it is likely you are going to be hooked, in general regardless of what your demographics, social background or genetics.

Anyway, as I have rabbled on I best be getting on to my story, which I will need to simplify as I have took so much time writing the above, but you will get the basic idea.

I am adopted and schizophrenic. I was malnourished from a very young age, but thanks to the family I have now and since I was 2 years old I have grown up to be an acceptable height of 5ft 5 at 22 years old (I was told I wouldn't make it past 4ft). The life that I lived previous to my current family is partly responsible for my current illness, smallish size, and gambling problems (my dad was a heavy gambler, but in no way what so ever do I feel hatred towards my birth parents). Fortunately my current family have made a pretty good job at turning me into a decent human, by giving me food and water, holidays, love, company etc...but I started gambling around exactly a year ago, which isn't long in comparison to other people on here.

It started when me and my friend (who I am not friends with anymore) went to the casino. I had £40 left with me at the end of the night, I put some on casino and as you do I won and lost, eventually losing the lot. I never accepted the loss, it made me slightly angry in a way, but I had a greater feeling of wanting to gamble more to make up the loss (all of which was £40). So I go to the cash machine which was a ridiculous 3 metres away from the roulette table and withdraw further money, eventually I lose this too.

Well surprisingly not, there I was at 2am after the night out, in my house 'watching' the TV channel which is responsible for showing SuperCasino and depositing £10 a go until I reached £90 and called it a night, winning nothing. This was the night in my opinion in which I started my gambling habit, but it wasn't until I went back to university that year in which the gambling problem really took a hold of its self.

So I had a room to my self, in the 'halls' as they call it in England where I planned in studying Meteorology and Climate for 3 years. However this never helped the problem. I found my self depositing small amounts (£10-20) at a time at first alone in my room, playing for the fun. This fun however turned into a way of trying to generate money through loss, and before I knew it I was blew £400 odd one night. I phoned my dad and told him about this (It was his money as he had to fund me through university) and obviously he was disappointed, I said I would stop.

It wasn't until I reached a ridiculous amount of money that night late on from my last £20 deposit that my gambling addiction had fully immersed its self inside my head. From £20 I was up at around £6k, from playing roulette alone. On top of this my (previously mentioned) friend was on the SAME website, up £2.7k...I eventually cashed out at £2k and my friend cashed out the £2.7k...we were so high I had to phone my dad at 7am and tell him I'd won this money, which he was even more mad about. Anyway it was all fine and dandy with us winning the money, I withdrew it into my account, and I had 2 grand to spend. I eventually spent the money, surprisingly on mostly respectable things like clothes food going out etc, but the gambling didn't stop there (as it hasn't for anyone else who has been in this very familiar situation). Eventually after the few months that took the £2k run out I found my self back at square one, trying to get £20 into some ridiculous amount of money by gambling on online websites.

Anyway to cut a long story short, after this win, I was firmly within the palm clenching grip, impossible to escape, that is called problem gambling. Eventually I would use most of my monthly allowance, in the hope that I would win again, though thankfully not to the stage in which I had no money for food or drink. University went on, and I didn't...partially due to my gambling problem, but to a bigger degree, to my schizophrenia, which makes matters 10x worse. Over the course of that academic year, I calculated losses and wins. I was evens at one point, after winning another 2 grand. However I spent this on gambling again and found my self down once more. At the end of the year (May) I calculated roughly I spent £8 grand and won £5k...so £3k down...in the space of a few months. I eventually withdrew from the university at the end of May.

Back at home in the summer problems just got worse...I won another £2k but I didn't even last a day until that was gone again...problems continued when I discovered 'PHONE BILL' gambling, where you can deposit funds using your phone bill contract (I KNOW RIGHT!?)...I racked up a bill on my phone twice for a total of £800...on top of this I lost another £2k on my credit card (with a £1.5k allowance?) in which my dad had to bail me out on...this was all before christmas, and now I find my self spending all my benefit money within one night to help 'fix' my gambling addiction... so in total a rough estimate of my losses (not a very good one) is that I am down around £7-10k...oh yeah and I nearly forgot, I stole a grand off my mums credit card last month...

So coming to conclusion to my story I hope this gives you guys some insight (as you probably already know from other similar stories) to what my life is like being a gambling addict (I had to pinch my self after saying that). But my most important message to you all is from the first few paragraphs, I'm no philosopher, but I have attempted put it into my own words of what I think gambling means in my world and hopefully this can spur a moment of thought for you when the next time a gambling urge pops up...just remember you are not alone, seek help fast before it gets a problem, or if gambling already is, keep up what you have achieved in the past and currently no matter how small the step is to solving your problem. Every little helps, and before you know it you will be getting a pay check in every month and spending it on what matters in life, not gambling.

I'm out :shock: (5am and 2.5 hours of typing)...take care everyone :D !
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Re: why cant i stop??

Postby Nomoreblackjack » Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:18 am

Thank you all.
you know how it goes win big one day,return later that day lose double the ammount you won earlier.
today is the day, thanks to all of you like most of us we know we have a problem some us have lost a lot no just money, but life, relationships, time;all for a stupid rush, or like myself an "escape gambler" numbness.

Reading all you your stories have helped me realized that if I continue down this road it will only get worse.23 year old male,I've rejected sex multiple times because of gambling,I've lost many relationships because of gamboling.its just not right..not only has it taken away my past two years of my social life I'm now in debt. ive dug my self in a whole. I've never told anyone of my gamboling addiction, I actually think I've manage to become a really good liar..

Because of all of your stories have taken the second step which is let someone know finding support.allof you.we are in this together. starting today i will stop..ill update once a week.it won't be easy but i believe in my self its not about being strong or aweak person.emotionally i am broken i am weak.but i believe not in a god not in anyone but my self...what it comes down too jesus isn't playing the bet. Yes,its simple to commit suicide, call your self a loser,feel sorry for your self, but thats not what I'm going to do I'm going too fight through the punches.
ps: forgive my ranting,spell checks,grammar

for you reading, let your loved ones know you love them,buy them something nice,seek a god any god theres thousands of them not for a miracle but for guidance,buy your self that thing you promisedyourself the last time you won but didn't,work out,meditate, rekindle with friends/family, don't have frineds make some! so many lonely people in this world,overweight? find your local gym or park, broke? get a job! or two pay off this debts with hard work don't give it to those stupid casinos.
stay strong, stay positive
love you all
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Re: why cant i stop??

Postby jespertin » Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:18 am

I feel for everyone here, i spend my whole paycheck, week after week, and come home broke, lost thousands of dollors, and still go back and do it again. alcohol plays a big part in it for me. because i feel the need to gamble after i drink. Its a reocurring thing, i know i need to stop, and always tell myself, but when the day comes it never happens.
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Re: why cant i stop??

Postby NewSunRising » Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:01 am

Welcome jespertin !

Gambling addiction is hard to beat , but it can be done . If you haven't already done so , please read the Strategies thread . There is a lot of good advice there .

We are all here for the same reason - gambling addiction has taken over our lives and we are fighting back . The battle is not easy , nor is it quick , but once you make the decision to stop , we will help you in any way we can .

All the best .
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