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Fetish for trapping/tormenting little helpless animals

Postby Dogethedoge04 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:00 pm

*trigger warning- animal cruelty*

When I was in 2nd grade, there were baby chicks in an open box I think we were going to use for a project, and one time when no one was looking, I had temptations to mess with one of the chicks, so what I did was picked it up, dropped it, and cornered it, feeling aroused while doing so. There was also one time where I thought about bringing a chick home and trapping it in my PlayStation 1 system, I told mom about that and she was like wtf. Then there was a time where I was camping at a farm that's full of unfixed cats and in the house I decided to hang out in the basement, and on the stair steps I saw a baby kitten and was messing around with it, and dropped it down to the next step, it squealed loudly and now makes me feel very guilty, and I had also imagined what it would be like if I killed the kitten and buried it in a place that it would never be found, but I never did do that, now I feel glad I never did. Then there was that one time in 7th grade where I trapped the cat in the hamper, it made me feel very aroused, but the cat meowed loudly wanting to get out, when the cat was crying to get out I felt very guilty, so I let her out as fast as I could so I would get over feeling guilty. Nowadays I don't feel arousal to doing that anymore, instead I feel guilty thinking about it. I don't have temptations to do it anymore.
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Re: Fetish for trapping/tormenting little helpless animals

Postby Ada » Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:37 pm

I'm glad this hasn't become a long term fetish for you. And that you didn't kill any animals. Children can take time to develop empathy. And experiment with power play without consent. But it's not healthy as an adult, in my view. [Or legal or moral.]
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Re: Fetish for trapping/tormenting little helpless animals

Postby Valar Morghulis » Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:45 pm

There was also one time where I thought about bringing a chick home and trapping it in my PlayStation 1 system.


:lol: :lol:

Don't people have such weird thoughts when young.
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Re: Fetish for trapping/tormenting little helpless animals

Postby Tululaboo » Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:26 pm

The aspect of power can be an interesting thought to someone when they are young, I do not mean this in any disrespect to anyone but I find more so for children because as a child there are few things that make you feel you have control over anything. I know for me when I was younger I always felt that I was always being controlled which often led me to say 'cant wait to be an adult to boss other around'.

Seems like such a stupid thing but im sure all of us as one point or another done something that gave us some control, some find unhealthy ways but despite what you done there are two things you can be proud of, the first being that you never hurt anything or anyone and second that it never remained a part of you in adulthood to which I think you owe your guilt for that.

We all have parts of your lives we wish we could undo or forget entirely but then we would not learn. Please do not beat yourself up, you are better for it.
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Re: Fetish for trapping/tormenting little helpless animals

Postby kevs099 » Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:50 pm

Dogethedoge04 wrote:*trigger warning- animal cruelty*


Professor MARK GRIFFITHS, BSc, PhD, CPsychol, PGDipHE, FBPsS, FRSA. wrote:
https://drmarkgriffiths.wordpress.com/2014/06/15/a-step-too-far-crush-fetishism-and-animal-torture-porn-revisited/

Zoosadism refers to the pleasure – often sexual – that individuals attain by causing sadistic cruelty to animals. These bizarre and (in some cases) depraved behaviours recently made the headlines in America following the arrests of women for appearing in an ‘animal torture porn’ video.....

https://drmarkgriffiths.wordpress.com/2012/04/23/cruel-proof-a-brief-overview-of-zoosadism/

Zoosadism refers to the pleasure – often sexual - that individuals attain by causing sadistic cruelty to animals. In many people’s minds, violence towards the animal is often automatically implied when they think of bestial acts. However, as I pointed out in a previous blog, recent academic research indicates that sex with animals by zoophiles is often considered by them as “sensual and loving” and does not necessarily include force, violence and/or sadism.....

Despite such research, links between sadistic sexual acts with animals and subsequent behaviour such as human sexual sadism and sexual murder has been much researched. Those who inflict pain and suffering on animals are more likely than those who don’t to be violent towards humans. It has been well documented that some rapists and murderers have sadistically hurt and/or killed animals in their childhood, and that some have engaged in bestial acts. Furthermore, some studies have shown that around a third to a half of all sexual murderers have abused animals during childhood and/or adolescence (although sample sizes of such studies are usually relatively small). However, most research has reported that one of the most important ‘warning signs’ and risk factors (specifically relating to the propensity for sex offending), is animal cruelty if accompanied by a sexual interest in animals. In a study of psychiatric patients who tortured cats and dogs published in Child Psychiatry and Human Development by Alan Felthous, he reported that all of them had high levels of aggression toward people including one patient who had murdered a boy.

https://drmarkgriffiths.wordpress.com/tag/zoophilia/

Last month, Denmark passed a law making bestiality a criminal offence from July 1st in a move to tackle animal-sex tourism. Bestiality (also known as zoophilia) is typically defined as relating to recurrent intense sexual fantasies, urges, and sexual activities with non-human animals. At present, there are still a number of countries where zoophilia is legal including Brazil, Mexico, Thailand, Finland, Hungary, and Romania. In the US there is no federal law against zoophilia although most states class it as a felony and/or misdemeanour although in some states it is technically legal (for example, Texas, Kentucky, Nevada, New Jersey, New Hampshire, Wyoming, West Virginia, and New Mexico).

In the 1970s, world renowned sexologist Professor John Money claimed that zoophilic behaviours were usually transitory occurring when there is no other sexual outlet available. However, research carried out in the 2000s shows this not be the case. Up until the advent of the internet, almost every scientific or clinical study reported on zoophilia were case reports of individuals that has sought treatment for their unusual sexual preference. However, the internet brought many like-minded people together and there are dozens of websites where zoophiles chat to each other online and share their videos including the Beast Forum, the largest online zoophile community in the world with tens of thousands of members.

*Human–animal role-players – those who never have sex with animals but become sexually aroused through wanting to have sex with humans who pretend to be animals.

*Romantic zoophiles – those who keeps animals as pets as a way to get psychosexually stimulated without actually having any kind of sexual contact with them.

*Zoophilic fantasizers – those who fantasize about having sexual intercourse with animals but never actually do.

*Tactile zoophiles – those who get sexual excitement from touching, stroking or fondling animals or their genitals but do not actually have sexual intercourse with animals.

*Fetishistic zoophiles – those who keep various animal parts (especially fur) that are used as erotic stimuli as a crucial part of their sexual activity (typically masturbation). (See my previous blog on the use of an animal part as a masturbatory aid)

*Sadistic bestials – those who derive sexual arousal from the torturing of animals (known as zoosadismhttps://drmarkgriffiths.wordpr ... shophilia/) but does not involve sexual intercourse with the animal.

*Opportunistic zoosexuals – those who have normal sexual encounters but would have sexual intercourse with animals if the opportunity arose.

*Regular zoosexuals – those who prefer sex with animals than sex with humans (but are capable of having sex with both). Such zoophiles will engage in a wide range of sexual activities with animals and love animals on an emotional level.

*Homicidal bestials – those who need to kill animals in order to have sex with them. Although capable of having sex with living animals, there is an insatiable desire to have sex with dead animals.

*Exclusive zoosexuals – those who only have sex with animals to the exclusion of human sexual partners.


dogethedoge04 wrote:Then there was a time where I was camping at a farm that's full of unfixed cats and in the house I decided to hang out in the basement, and on the stair steps I saw a baby kitten and was messing around with it, and dropped it down to the next step, it squealed loudly and now makes me feel very guilty.....

Then there was that one time in 7th grade where I trapped the cat in the hamper, it made me feel very aroused, but the cat meowed loudly wanting to get out, when the cat was crying to get out I felt very guilty, so I let her out as fast as I could so I would get over feeling guilty.

Nowadays I don't feel arousal to doing that anymore, instead I feel guilty thinking about it. I don't have temptations to do it anymore.


I don't see you fitting anywhere in Dr Griffiths's blog. Doesn't sound like you ever caused animals any measurable pain or long term suffering. Since you no longer have thoughts of "arousal or temptation" I would think your guilty feelings would've passed by now, but If it's that troubling, have you ever thought of donating to the Humane Society? or ASPCA? "American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals" Both have volunteer programs also.

ASPCA online donation form here:
https://www.aspca.org/secure/ps-gn-p2?ms=MP_PMK_Googleawos-T4&initialms=MP_PMK_Googleawos-T4&pcode=WPSE9XXGOGN2PK00034&lpcode=WPSE9XXGOGN1PK00034&gclid=CjwKEAjw-vewBRDH1-b52Lig1hkSJACTPfVFbMSpf8qdYwF2y9RfMR0CEY7oJEKxcPorYDAHVZP7GBoC_8Pw_wcB

Your local animal shelter could always use your help with donations of food and money. Many animals shelters, humane society programs and private organizations depend on volunteer work and it's a surefire way to alleviate your guilt
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Re: Fetish for trapping/tormenting little helpless animals

Postby kevs099 » Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:13 pm

Sadomasochist role-play, the animal having no choice but to play masochist, often involve and/or acts out fetishism in many forms, but sadomasochism by itself is not classified as paraphilia which includes fetishism. What you describe is not paraphilia or fetishistic disorder unless it's causing you distress or impairs function.

http://www.theravive.com/therapedia/Fetishistic-Disorder-DSM--5-302.81-%28F65.0%29

David Porter, MA, LADC wrote:

Symptoms of Fetishistic Disorder

According to the DSM-5, there are three criterion for Fetishistic Disorder, and four specifiers that can be applied:

A. Over a six month period, the individual has experienced sexual urges focused on a non-genital body part, or inanimate object, or other stimulus, and has acted out urges, fantasies, or behaviors.

B. The fantasies, urges, or behaviors cause distress, or impairment in functioning.

C. The Fetishistic object is not an article of clothing employed in cross dressing, or a sexual stimulation device, such as a vibrator.

*Specifiers for the diagnosis of Fetishistic Disorder include the type of stimulus which is the focus
Symptoms of Fetishistic Disorder

According to the DSM-5, there are three criterion for Fetishistic Disorder, and four specifiers that can be applied:

A. Over a six month period, the individual has experienced sexual urges focused on a non-genital body part, or inanimate object, or other stimulus, and has acted out urges, fantasies, or behaviors.

B. The fantasies, urges, or behaviors cause distress, or impairment in functioning.

C. The Fetishistic object is not an article of clothing employed in cross dressing, or a sexual stimulation device, such as a vibrator.

*Specifiers for the diagnosis of Fetishistic Disorder include the type of stimulus which is the focus
of attention.
*Body Part(s) (non-genital or erogenous areas of the body - e.g.,feet or hair). This is also referred
to as Partialism- preoccupation with a part of the body rather than the whole person.
*Non-living Object(s) e.g. shoes or boots.
*Other- situations or activities- e.g.- smoking during sex.

Other specifiers are:

*In a controlled environment where Fetishistic Disorder cannot readily be engaged in, such as a
institutional setting.
*In remission: No distress or impairment of functioning for a five year period, exclusive of a
controlled environment (American Psychiatric Association, 2013).

Impact on Functioning

Fetishistic Disorder can impact intimate relationships. If the Fetish is absent from a sexual encounter, it can result in sexual dysfunction, such as inability to achieve or maintain an erection (American Psychiatric Association, 2013). It is noted that paraphillias in general, including fetishism, are correlated with general psychosocial impairment, including being victims of physical abuse, lower educational level, inpatient admissions mental health or substance abuse treatment, disability, unemployment, involvement with criminal justice, increased risk of STI's (Sexually Transmitted Infections) and comorbid mental health disorders (Marsh, Odlaug, Thomarios, Davis, Buchanan, Meyer, & Grant, 2010). Criminal behavior may be involved with Fetishistic Disorder, such as breaking and entering to steal articles of clothing, or unwanted contact, such as touching a a strange woman's feet in public. The individual with Fetishistic Disorder may experience guilt, shame, and humiliation if they are unable to contain their desires and act out in public.


Differential Diagnosis

There are several diagnostic rule-outs for the clinician to consider. In the DSM -5, disorders such as

Transvestic Disorder, Sexual Masochism, and Fetishistic behavior without Fetishistic Disorder (American Psychiatric Association, 2013). Tranvestic disorder specifically involves a man dressing in typical woman's clothing, whereas Fetishistic disorder would involve handling, smelling, and masturbating with an article of woman’s clothing. Woman may also wear men's clothes with little or no social stigma. Sexual Masochism involves sexual gratification from the infliction of pain or discomfort on another. An article used for Masochistic behaviors, such as a ligature for restraint, may acquire independent Fetishistic properties, but the act of restraint with a ligature during sexual activity and becoming aroused from the discomfort of ones partner is a Masochistic act, and a different diagnosis. There are also individuals who use Fetishes for sexual arousal with a partner who is agreeable to the behavior, and do not experience distress or impairment of sexual functioning, in which case the behavior does not reach the clinical threshold of a disorder.
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Re: Fetish for trapping/tormenting little helpless animals

Postby brook12 » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:23 pm

I don't want to make you feel bad about what happen in the past. These were definitely bad things to do because the animals didn't consent and could have been harmed..

but it is something you stopped doing so that is something to be really proud of - you did well not continuing to hurt animals. I think that a lot of kids do things like this as part of growing up.
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