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What is the opposite of a pathological liar?

Postby Falcorian » Thu Apr 23, 2015 12:23 am

Is there such thing as a pathological truth-teller? Think of the movie Liar, Liar with Jim Carrey, but to a much lesser degree. I know most people don't (won't) believe that I have this problem, as it's very difficult to accept that a person doesn't lie. To be honest, I can lie. I just have the need to come clean and always explain the truth after it's said. Further, I tend to overshare, which can be a serious issue in the wrong circles. I've had to delete my accounts on some social networks because I shared a bit too much. I've asked a therapist friend of mine, and she tells me that there aren't really any studies concerning this sort of thing that she can recall. Has anyone ever heard of this?
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Re: What is the opposite of a pathological liar?

Postby EtherealStarlight » Thu Apr 23, 2015 10:58 pm

i know that sometimes people with autism can tend to do things like this - be brutally honest with people instead of lying to spare their feelings, being too open with people and sharing too much information, thinking that everyone is very honest and being gullible, etc. maybe read up on asperger's and such and see if it fits you?

just kind of a shot in the dark, but that's the first thing that comes to mind.

is it really hurting your life? it might just be a small flaw that you have and nothing to worry about.
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Re: What is the opposite of a pathological liar?

Postby EarlyMorning » Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:03 pm

Yes.

Pop over to Asperger's sub.

Come and have a chat with us and then decide.
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Re: What is the opposite of a pathological liar?

Postby Falcorian » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:09 am

According to a therapist I had, I might have it, but I can't be diagnosed with Asperger because I'm over the age of 20 (or some such nonsense). I think she may have been making it up.
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Re: What is the opposite of a pathological liar?

Postby Otter » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:20 am

There are times when someone with OCD (obsessive/compulsive disorder) will adopt the obsession of having to tell the truth all-the-time.

this did happen to me when I was younger. i could not tell a lie, and spent inordinate amounts of time "inspecting" every word and phrase to make sure there wasn't a shade of untruth to it.

it was an awful time.
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Re: What is the opposite of a pathological liar?

Postby EarlyMorning » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:03 am

Falcorian wrote:According to a therapist I had, I might have it, but I can't be diagnosed with Asperger because I'm over the age of 20 (or some such nonsense). I think she may have been making it up.


that is rubbish. adults can get diagnosis

also Otter has a point, with the ocd.

it can become a compulsion.

either way, feel free to pop over if you feel like it. Can't do any harm.
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Re: What is the opposite of a pathological liar?

Postby acal2468 » Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:47 pm

Sounds like it could be OCD (specifically, scrupulosity). In my experience, it is very hard to find a therapist who can even recognize what this is, much less treat it. If you think you might have scrupulosity (Google it and see if it sounds familiar), a good resource to find an experienced therapist is the OC Foundation. They have a special training program and will list people who have been through it. I found someone in their directory who has really helped me with my scrupulosity.
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Re: What is the opposite of a pathological liar?

Postby MIA60 » Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:16 pm

Wow! You have just described me to a "T" right down to the over sharing in eplaination. Yes. I can lie. I don't do it well in any instance and I try to avoid it in all cases. I have gotten better at the cold, unbridled, brutally honest reply as I don't care to be hurtful. Those answers often come out mean. When asked if these Jean's make me look fat, l no longer say 'yes, change them' but something like 'well, they don't do you justice & I know you have jeans that look good or better on you.' However, if we are in a shopping situation and I am asked, I would flat out state how horrid they may be and say don't spend on them.
When I took a job where I had to cover phones at lunch, it took callers about a week to know I was lying if I said the boss wasn't in,when he was. Every time a call came in from someone the boss did not want to talk to, it was like I was caught off guard and surprised. I would stutter and stammer. I had to convince myself that it was the absolute truth to say he isn't available to take your call (my reasoning was the boss is not making himself available to this caller and thereby is not available). Once I did that ,I was fine. Years later when someone suggested he replace me (to save $$) my boss touted my value and assets and said "the only thing wrong with her is she is honest to a fault." I took the win but it can be a burden at times. I sometimes wondered if there was something wrong with me like maybe I'm autistic a teensy bit. I have to think about everything I say. I'm no spring chicken. I am not very socially graceful because of this. I do tend to be blunt and I'm not good at sugar coating. People don't know how to take what I say. I often find it insulting because if you know me, you know I have no cruel intentions and would never intentionally hurt anyone's feelings even if I did. But tell me I did! At least then I can apologize and maybe explain it through my eyes too. Then we both learn. I am glad to know I am not alone.
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