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Re: Still doing it

Postby Malasha » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:01 am

Dnester wrote:I call it chatter because that sounds more like thoughts which is exactly what they are not voices.

Voices or thoughts it does not matter. The main thing is that you evaluate them as certain inclusions that seem to you either strange or intrusive. If they do not interfere much with your life, do not pay attention to them. This will save you a lot of time and money.


Dnester wrote:Yes people with DID describe them as voices within. Different ages, accents etc. Unlike voices on the outside which could be indictive of schizophrenia.

In schizophrenia, voices may sound inside (it's called pseudohallucinations), and outside (it's true hallucinations)

Dnester wrote: The fact that they dont talk at the same time and dont answer like other people describe makes me think they are medication induced intrusive thoughts. I take my Zoloft at night.


The drugs themselves can cause various similar effects as a side effect. But in this case, it is not the effect of the drug. The voices appear regardless of the pills. And increase the dose of antipsychotic to remove the voice, it is meaningless.

Dnester wrote: I have repeatedly asked them (if they are there) to speak to me during the day at it rarely happens.

Why do you take zoloft? Is it really only to remove obsessive thoughts before as you fall asleep?


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One night it just started counting 10 11 12 13. One night it said go go sleep Timmy. One night it said get your *ss out of trouble. When I tell it to talk to me and let me know what they are talking about I either get nothing or it feels like I am just putting this dialogue in my head.

You will not be able to speak to voices as if you were speaking to ordinary people. They won't tell you anything new. But you can try to remember your favorite song, the voice of your favorite singer. You can remember the frames of a good movie. This is a very pleasant and useful activity. Do not be afraid of strong inclusions of your imagination. Just use what you have been given.
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Re: Still doing it

Postby Dnester » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:45 pm

I dont want to be schzophrenic.
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Re: Still doing it

Postby Dnester » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:56 pm

Please dont scare me anymore. I am going to listen to my treatment providers.
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Re: Still doing it

Postby Una+ » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:34 pm

Dnester, in all your posts, from both what you describe and how you describe it, I am not getting the impression that you have schizophrenia. Instead I am getting the impression you are one of us. And I notice that you say multiple mental health care providers have offered you a diagnosis of a major dissociative disorder. And you are struggling with denial. I get that. I was first diagnosed OSDD and I too struggled with denial.

Hearing voices that others do not hear equals auditory verbal hallucinations. About 15% of people hear voices. About 1% of people have DID. About 1% of people have schizophrenia. Hearing voices is more common in DID than in schizophrenia. Also, because the experience of hearing voices is so common, it is not used to diagnose either DID or schizophrenia. And hearing voices does not mean you are crazy or going crazy or at risk of going crazy.

Your fear of going crazy is totally normal for DID. In fact, that fear is a strong diagnostic sign that you have DID not schizophrenia.

I don't know what you have going on but whatever it is, remember this: you have been living with it for most of your life. So looking into it, uncovering and learning more about yourself, while very upsetting at the outset, is likely to do you and those you love far more good than harm. You are in what's called a DID crisis. It will pass. You can make it go underground again, as before. How has that worked for you? Or you can bring it to the surface, and try some new and scary stuff and very likely live a better life.
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Re: Still doing it

Postby Ponyta » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:44 pm

We agree with what Una+ said. In our opinion- we don't get the impression of schizophrenia either. I'm not positive on the matter- but I get the feeling you're one of us as well.
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Re: Still doing it

Postby Una+ » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:59 pm

Malasha wrote:You will not be able to speak to voices as if you were speaking to ordinary people. They won't tell you anything new.

Here Malasha is speaking from Malasha's own experience.

My experience is different. Like you Dnester I heard my voices most often at bedtime; I would be drifting off and suddenly one in particular would be talking out of my mouth. That startled me wide awake, let me tell you! My history is full of possession states, so it isn't surprising they would do this. Aren't you glad your voices don't talk out of your mouth? I am so glad I had a DID-savvy therapist and books and later this group too, to reassure me that I was not going crazy, that this was well within normal limits for DID. Later I heard one voice first thing in the morning, every morning, for a few years: "I love you." When I first tried to engage the voices in my head there was dead silence, as if I wasn't supposed to hear them and they were holding their breath waiting for me to go away. Later we did have conversations. None of my voices had names to start with, and only one chose a name later.
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Re: Still doing it

Postby TheGangsAllHere » Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:21 pm

I was very much hoping you would contribute to this thread, Una+.

I also agree with everything that Una+ has said.
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Re: Still doing it

Postby Dnester » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:08 am

Thanks guys. I am going to go to my DID specialist May 1sr and try to have an open mind.
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Re: Still doing it

Postby Dnester » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:45 am

Una do you have any insight on my thread Realized?
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Re: Still doing it

Postby Malasha » Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:43 am

Una+ wrote:Hearing voices is more common in DID than in schizophrenia.

Una+ wrote:Your fear of going crazy is totally normal for DID. In fact, that fear is a strong diagnostic sign that you have DID not schizophrenia.

Voices are a major symptom of schizophrenia too. And if you look in the textbooks, the fear of going crazy is a sign of derealization.

Una+, tell me, please, what in your opinion personalities in DID differs from multiple personalities in schizophrenia?


Dnester wrote:I dont want to be schzophrenic.

All of us would never want to get sick. But very few people succeed. But unlike other disease, in schizophrenia things aren't as clear-cut. A person with schizophrenia has no brain damage. And so the boundary between the normal state and the state of the disease is very blurred. The disease begins when you realize that you cannot cope with some symptoms on your own. Symptoms can be very strong, but if a person is normally guided in this, if he has normal behavior, then there is no reason to say that he is sick.

DID, as I understand it, is a kind of delirium in schizophrenia. In delirium, a person is completely turned off from the external life, but at the same time he experiences many events, being, as if in a dream. I think that DID and schizophrenia are of the same nature.
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