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Postby birdsong87 » Sat May 20, 2017 4:23 pm

I am wondering if there is anyone who would dare to discuss mind control and programming and what to do about it.
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Re: programming

Postby dlantern » Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:25 pm

http://neilbrick.com/articles/how-to-av ... onference/

Here is a great site....excerpt below

The main thing I do is make sure alters are informed and if still active that they don't cause us to become stuck in the past without a good reason. Kind of like deprogramming co con type deal knowing that it isn't just on our call from our own system. I would just be careful not to make it a blame game if an alter wants to share this triggered us out can actually cause a situation if someone doesn't understand.

Dealing with Other Conference Attendees

Most people are going to act fairly normally, and because programmers/handlers or scouts for secretive organizations or cults are not likely to look any different from most people, it is helpful to be alert to possible signs of attempted accessing.

Do not give any personal details about your life to conference attendees, even if you believe you have met them online. Almost every ritual abuse survivor has parts inside who are trained to report on other survivors to the perpetrators. You do not want anyone reporting about you.

Don’t shake hands or exchange hugs with anyone you don’t know. Certain cults use handshakes to remind people of their programming and/or access certain alter states.

Survivors are in different places in their healing, and their knowledge about programming methods and their ability to recognize such things. There are two ways to catch triggers: one is by your own reactions. If you notice you are suddenly dizzy or foggy, or spaced out, you may be triggered. It is good to know some grounding techniques to use when this begins to happen. Try to remember what just happened around you. The second is by looking for some specific behaviors, odd out of place phrases, or discrepancies between behaviors and words. Pay close attention to hand gestures, winks, taps, etc.

Most people are probably safe, but it is a good idea to be aware of your surroundings as much as possible. You might want to watch who is around you, who is within your physical space, who brushes shoulders with you, who touches you, who sits next to you, who is near your food, in all areas of the hotel, as well as watch where you drive and what cars are behind or near you. Don’t go off to a secluded area with anyone you don’t know well.

One important thing is if you are feeling triggered or dissociated or tired or weak, don’t let people that you don’t know or trust and/or people that aren’t safe ask you to leave the conference room to talk with you. If you see someone you don’t know walking up to you when you are feeling triggered or dissociated you might want to say “excuse me” and quickly walk away from them and find a support person or a conference organizer.

Please notify us during or after the conference if you see any of the things, such as deliberate triggering, mentioned in this article. Try to let us know what happened in as much detail as possible.

Trigger Management

Triggers are more than phrases. They can be pictures, sounds, smells, tastes, gestures or touches on the body. The added dangers for triggers for ritual abuse survivors are that triggers can be used to open alter states, or very complex programs. These programs could be used to cause a return to the cult or cause someone to hurt themselves or someone else.

Triggering can occur in so many forms that it is impossible to delineate them all here. Some signs of triggering may be: feeling like you’re looking or walking down a tunnel, feeling “unreal” or invisible, feeling like something bad is about to happen, ominous sense, inability to concentrate, spacing out, blanking, dizziness, fogginess, stomach upset or pain, tingling in arms or legs, twitching on any part of the body, dropping objects, mishearing things or inability to hear (where others appear to hear okay), seeing visual flashes (such as a flash of another object where a chair is), hearing voices in your head, or losing bits of time and not knowing what happened. If you brought a safe support person, let that person know what is happening.

Trigger management is one of the keys to recovery. By being able to manage your triggers, you can hopefully keep from being triggered into alter states that could possibly be used to get you to return to the cult. This entails knowing the trigger and the feeling accompanying the trigger, the memory connected to the trigger and the action required of the trigger.

Working through programming is having the memory in a safe setting with a safe support person and learning the accompanying trigger and subliminal instruction.

Trigger management involves learning to recognize the feeling of falling into a deep hypnotic state, snapping out of it, and then trying to figure out why it happened. It also involves learning how not to fall into these states while feeling the “pull” of them. One technique that can be used is: Shake your head side to side (fairly hard) or walk around.

Susceptibility to triggers can come from being tired or confused. This is why it is important to try not to be tired or confused in possibly triggering situations. Try to stay awake and alert. Get enough sleep.

Practicing Trigger Management Techniques.
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Re: programming

Postby birdsong87 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:32 pm

thanks for sharing!! that is really good advice.
Dx: DID cPTSD
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