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Postby exrec9 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:55 pm

Hello all,
When I was a child (looking back now) I had a high level of ADD but my father refused medication so I went through school and had a tough time. Now I'm 48 and find my ADD is out of control. I've been fired from jobs, pissed off family members etc as I cannot focus on anything. I do get spurts of attention but its never for what I should be doing. I've tried adderall, concerta, ritalin, focalin etc and find that even on escalating doses it works for a day or two then i'm back to my old ways. Last week, after running out of my adderall some 2-3 weeks before I went back to my concerta and started taking it. Then I doubled the dose! For 3 hours I was ultra focused and then boom, the next day nothing.

Its so hard finding a good doc, let alone therapist who doesn't watch the damn clock the whole time you are there. I'm looking for help and have no idea where to go. Forget books cant get through em. Even typing this out is painful but i know i need help.


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Re: ADD Help

Postby DoDecaDon » Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:04 pm

Hey,

I have been diagnosed with A.D.D Aswell. Though I expect I have a co-morbid version/switching from hyper to inattentive.

I have been taking the adhd medication for around three years now, at first, it made me feel better in my mood and life felt happier, I was able to focus and feel good.

slowly though it "changed" and I thought it wasn't working anymore for me. What I have realized is that it is no longer making me happy but it is in fact still helping me concentrate.

I have found that I have to, "put in the work" receive that dopamine mood lift, (seems obvious really) and the adhd pill is only a tool I can use to help me get there. I now just take the medication that provides me to focus externally and not on my thoughts.

Sorry if this post is full of word salad, I'm a little dysregulated at the moment.

What i'm trying to say is that maybe it is still helping you focus but no longer providing you the mood lift?

I could be completely wrong though, this is only based on my experiences.
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Re: ADD Help

Postby Theymakeyouwait » Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:52 pm

There is a myth that people with ADHD have a chemical imbalance. However when you adjust for IQ people with ADHD have similar if not the same amount of dopamine compared to people without the diagnosis. These drugs "work" by creating a chemical imbalance. The short term studies find that ADHD drugs do not improve academic performance, however they do make kids more attentive, manageable and less fidgety.
Long term these drugs worsen the very symptoms they are supposed to treat. The NIMH did a study and at 3 years those taking the drugs had worse symptoms compared to kids who never took the drugs. Kids on the drugs committed more crimes, got in trouble at school more and performed worse.
A Canadian review found little to no evidence of any benefits from long term stimulant use.
An Australian long term study found drugged children were 10 times more likely to be performing below age level in their school work compared to non-drugged children.
This means that long term ADHD drugs provide only negatives. Those negative include bi-polar and psychotic disorders. For example over 21 months 6% of people taking ADHD drugs developed bi-polar disease because of the drugs. Estimates are that 1 in 5 people who take these drugs will eventually developed another mental illness due to the drugs.

https://www.madinamerica.com/wp-content ... g-ADHD.pdf
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Re: ADD Help

Postby DoDecaDon » Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:41 pm

Theymakeyouwait wrote:There is a myth that people with ADHD have a chemical imbalance. However when you adjust for IQ people with ADHD have similar if not the same amount of dopamine compared to people without the diagnosis. These drugs "work" by creating a chemical imbalance. The short term studies find that ADHD drugs do not improve academic performance, however they do make kids more attentive, manageable and less fidgety.
Long term these drugs worsen the very symptoms they are supposed to treat. The NIMH did a study and at 3 years those taking the drugs had worse symptoms compared to kids who never took the drugs. Kids on the drugs committed more crimes, got in trouble at school more and performed worse.
A Canadian review found little to no evidence of any benefits from long term stimulant use.
An Australian long term study found drugged children were 10 times more likely to be performing below age level in their school work compared to non-drugged children.
This means that long term ADHD drugs provide only negatives. Those negative include bi-polar and psychotic disorders. For example over 21 months 6% of people taking ADHD drugs developed bi-polar disease because of the drugs. Estimates are that 1 in 5 people who take these drugs will eventually developed another mental illness due to the drugs.

https://www.madinamerica.com/wp-content ... g-ADHD.pdf


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Re: ADD Help

Postby quietgirl2538 » Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:12 am

Theymakeyouwait wrote:There is a myth that people with ADHD have a chemical imbalance. However when you adjust for IQ people with ADHD have similar if not the same amount of dopamine compared to people without the diagnosis. These drugs "work" by creating a chemical imbalance. The short term studies find that ADHD drugs do not improve academic performance, however they do make kids more attentive, manageable and less fidgety.
Long term these drugs worsen the very symptoms they are supposed to treat. The NIMH did a study and at 3 years those taking the drugs had worse symptoms compared to kids who never took the drugs. Kids on the drugs committed more crimes, got in trouble at school more and performed worse.
A Canadian review found little to no evidence of any benefits from long term stimulant use.
An Australian long term study found drugged children were 10 times more likely to be performing below age level in their school work compared to non-drugged children.
This means that long term ADHD drugs provide only negatives. Those negative include bi-polar and psychotic disorders. For example over 21 months 6% of people taking ADHD drugs developed bi-polar disease because of the drugs. Estimates are that 1 in 5 people who take these drugs will eventually developed another mental illness due to the drugs.

https://www.madinamerica.com/wp-content ... g-ADHD.pdf


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Re: ADD Help

Postby Theymakeyouwait » Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:48 pm

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