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Nobel Peace Prize for Greta Thunberg and Fridays for Future?

Postby DiogenesSinopeus » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:01 am

Climate activist Greta Thunberg is probably the most famous living person who has been diagnosed as having Asperger's syndrome [1]. She started her Skolstrejk för klimatet on 20 August 2018. This was soon followed by Fridays for Future which started in Den Haag (The Netherlands) on 4 September 2018 and in Berlin (Germany) on 14 September 2018. Leading persons behind Fridays for Future are Luisa Neubauer and Carla Reemtsma.

Fridays for Future has since then been supported by a number of groups. One of them is Scientists for Future which has been founded by Dr. Gregor Hagedorn in March 2019. The program of Scientists for Future has been signed by 26,800 scientists [2, 3], among them Jacques Dubochet (Nobel Prize in Chemistry 2017) and Gerhard Ertl (Nobel Prize in Chemistry 2007). Gregor Hagedorn and collaborators published on 12 April 2019 a paper in the scientific research journal "Science" in support of Fridays for Future [4, 5]. This paper has been signed in support by some 3,000 scientists, among them Nobel Prize winner Jacques Dubochet [6, 7].

On 15 May 2019 the University of Mons (Belgium) announced that it will award an honory doctorate to Greta Thunberg [8].

In February 2019 it was announced that Greta Thunberg was nominated by six politicians for the Nobel Peace Prize [9].

Scientists for Future is not actually new. Its forerunner was March for Science which demonstrated worldwide on 22 April 2017. Its German declaration called Science March Germany was signed by more than 1,000 scientists, among them five Nobel Prize winners (Prof. Gerhard Ertl, Chemistry 2007; Prof. Wolfgang Ketterle, Physics 2001; Prof. Klaus von Klitzing, Physics 1985; Prof. Erwin Neher, Medicine 1991; Prof. Horst Störmer, Physics 1998) [10, 11].

The declarations of Science March Germany [10, 11], Scientists for Future [2, 3], and the paper published in "Science" [7] were also signed by Dr. Rainer Walter Kühne. He formulated the theory of quantum electromagnetodynamics [12] and is well-known for his Atlantis theory which has been tested and in part confirmed by an archaeological expedition which has been financed especially by the National Geographic Society [13] and headed by Prof. Richard Freund [14]. The New York Times bestselling author Mark Adams wrote in 2015 that Kühne had been diagnosed as having Asperger's syndrome [15].

[1] https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/gr ... 60936.html
[2] https://www.scientists4future.org/unterschriften/
[3] http://archive.is/VHzrG (permanent link, 25 April 2019)
[4] Gregor Hagedorn et al.: Concerns of young protesters are justified. Science 364 no. 6436 (12 April 2019) 139-140 https://science.sciencemag.org/content/364/6436/139.2
[5] https://science.sciencemag.org/content/ ... .2/tab-pdf (PDF file of the Science paper)
[6] https://science.sciencemag.org/content/ ... .139-b.DC1 (link to the supplement to the Science paper)
[7] https://science.sciencemag.org/highwire ... orn-SM.pdf (PDF file of the supplement to the Science paper which includes some 3,000 signatories)
[8] https://www.brusselstimes.com/all-news/ ... las-terne/
[9] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47568227
[10] http://marchforscience.de/unterstuetzer/
[11] http://archive.is/0TQk7 (permanent link, 20 April 2017)
[12] Rainer Walter Kühne: Quantum Field Theory with Electric-Magnetic Duality and Spin-Mass Duality but Without Grand Unification and Supersymmetry. African Review of Physics 6 (2011) 165-179 http://lamp.ictp.it/index.php/aphysrev/ ... 60/211.pdf
[13] Simcha Jacobovici's National Geographic documentary "Finding Atlantis" was aired for the first time on 13 March 2011 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1864327/
[14] Richard A. Freund: Digging Through History - Archaeology and Religion from Atlantis to the Holocaust. Rowman and Littlefield 2012. http://www.amazon.com/dp/1442208821
[15] Mark Adams: Meet Me in Atlantis - My Obsessive Quest to find the Sunken City. Dutton 2015. http://www.amazon.com/dp/0525953701 (p. 100).
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Right Livelihood Award 2019 to Greta Thunberg

Postby DiogenesSinopeus » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:08 am

Today The Right Livelihood Foundation announced that it will award the Right Livelihood Award 2019 (also known as Alternative Nobel Prize) to Aminatou Haidar (Western Sahara), Guo Jianmei (China), Greta Thunberg (Sweden) and Davi Kopenawa / Hutukara Yanomami Association (Brazil). Congratulations!

https://www.rightlivelihoodaward.org/me ... announced/
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Re: Nobel Peace Prize for Greta Thunberg and Fridays for Future?

Postby ShaolinMonk » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:40 am


Brief CLINTEL aan VN-baas Guterres
Professor Guus Berkhout
The Hague

23 September 2019

Sr. António Guterres, Secretary-General, United Nations,
United Nations Headquarters,
New York, NY 10017, United States of America.

Ms. Patricia Espinosa Cantellano, Executive Secretary,
United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change,
UNFCCC Secretariat, UN Campus, Platz der Vereinten Nationen 1,
53113 Bonn, Germany

Your Excellencies,

There is no climate emergency.

A global network of more than 500 knowledgeable and experienced scientists and professionals in climate and related fields have the honor to address to Your Excellencies the attached European Climate Declaration, for which the signatories to this letter are the national ambassadors.

The general-circulation models of climate on which international policy is at present founded are unfit for their purpose. Therefore, it is cruel as well as imprudent to advocate the squandering of trillions on the basis of results from such immature models. Current climate policies pointlessly, grievously undermine the economic system, putting lives at risk in countries denied access to affordable, continuous electrical power.

We urge you to follow a climate policy based on sound science, realistic economics and genuine concern for those harmed by costly but unnecessary attempts at mitigation. We ask you to place the Declaration on the agenda of your imminent New York session.

We also invite you to organize with us a constructive high-level meeting between world-class scientists on both sides of the climate debate early in 2020. The meeting will give effect to the sound and ancient principle no less of sound science than of natural justice that both sides should be fully and fairly heard. Audiatur et altera pars!

Please let us know your thoughts about such a joint meeting.

Yours sincerely, ambassadors of the European Climate Declaration,

Professor Guus Berkhout – The Netherlands
Professor Richard Lindzen – USA
Professor Reynald Du Berger – French Canada
Professor Ingemar Nordin – Sweden
Terry Dunleavy – New Zealand
Jim O’Brien – Rep. of Ireland
Viv Forbes – Australia
Professor Alberto Prestininzi – Italy
Professor Jeffrey Foss – English Canada
Professor Benoît Rittaud – France
Morten Jødal – Norway
Professor Fritz Vahrenholt – Germany
Rob Lemeire – Belgium
The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley – UK

There is no climate emergency
A global network of 500 scientists and professionals has prepared this urgent message. Climate science should be less political, while climate policies should be more scientific. Scientists should openly address the uncertainties and exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while politicians should dispassionately count the real benefits as well as the imagined costs of adaptation to global warming, and the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of mitigation.

Natural as well as anthropogenic factors cause warming
The geological archive reveals that Earth’s climate has varied as long as the planet has existed, with natural cold and warm phases. The Little Ice Age ended as recently as 1850. Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a period of warming.

Warming is far slower than predicted
The world has warmed at less than half the originally-predicted rate, and at less than half the rate to be expected on the basis of net anthropogenic forcing and radiative imbalance. It tells us that we are far from understanding climate change.

Climate policy relies on inadequate models
Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely plausible as policy tools. Moreover, they most likely exaggerate the effect of greenhouse gases such as CO2. In addition, they ignore the fact that enriching the atmosphere with CO2 is beneficial.

CO2 is plant food, the basis of all life on Earth
CO2 is not a pollutant. It is essential to all life on Earth. Photosynthesis is a blessing. More CO2 is beneficial for nature, greening the Earth: additional CO2 in the air has promoted growth in global plant biomass. It is also good for agriculture, increasing the yields of crop worldwide.

Global warming has not increased natural disasters
There is no statistical evidence that global warming is intensifying hurricanes, floods, droughts and suchlike natural disasters, or making them more frequent. However, CO2-mitigation measures are as damaging as they are costly. For instance, wind turbines kill birds and bats, and palm-oil plantations destroy the biodiversity of the rainforests.

Policy must respect scientific and economic realities
There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for panic and alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2 policy proposed for 2050. If better approaches emerge, and they certainly will, we have ample time to reflect and adapt. The aim of international policy should be to provide reliable and affordable energy at all times, and throughout the world.

Many scientists have been silenced for speaking about the facts and the evidence that the current hoax is exactly that. As such, marching this young girl out as the "spokesperson" with a slew of fake degrees doesn't make her "message" any more "true." Rather it obscures the reality with the haze of emotional silliness and the 'fit in' and be part of the new 'ethos.' All of which has been nicely engineered and promoted through flawed education systems and the media.
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Re: Nobel Peace Prize for Greta Thunberg and Fridays for Future?

Postby shock_the_monkey » Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:52 pm

anyone that thinks climate change is not a real problem for humanity is really not looking at the evidence in a dispassionate way. the truth is that we are destroying the natural world and this will ultimately lead to severe consequences for us, as we are completely dependent on it, as are all life forms. much as i have my reservations about the way greta thunberg presents herself, in no way do i doubt her message. it is exactly this kind of ignorance that she's fighting against. no doubt she feels driven to present herself in the way she does because she feels that a less emotional and more polite presentation won't get through. sadly, i have to admit that she might be right. the media age in which we live loves extremes. i only hope she's trying to cultivate a little more relaxed and less emotive attitude to life in general as i do fear for her long term wellbeing otherwise. david attenborough would be an ideal role model for her. he can convey his message about climate change without appearing rather hysterical. nevertheless, i admire the stand that she has taken and wish her well.
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