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***18 types of Aspergers!*** (aspie subtypes)

Postby louiesgonnadie » Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:01 pm

So, I was watching a video where this girl was talking about how she dealt with aspergers, and to put it into perspective a little better, she created three subtypes (actor, loner, outcast). I was thinking about how these subtypes were pretty broad, and I remembered the phrase "If you've met one person with AS, you've met one person with AS." which sparked an idea of creating a more detailed subtype indicator. I really felt compelled to do this, as I have encountered and gotten to know many people with AS, due to spending time in a private school which held a large population of ASD students (I was even dXed AS myself as an infant, however I'm questioning it) thus I've acquired a bit of insight about the spectrum disorders. Spent all last night working on this for a good 3-4 hours, and fine tuned it today.

Reading over this, I realize I sound like I'm describing a few of these subtypes in a very technical way, to the point where it sounds like some of them are computers. :p I don't aim for describing their character as much as trying to guess how their mind works. I took a clinical approach. Hope this intrigues a few of you. :)

"the packet"
This type consistently gathers information and data fueled by their fascination, and may even create complex systems based off of the data. Ultimately, they spend so much time involved in this process, that they become the data - detaching from their persona, even forgetting they are actually a human being, and likely neglecting basic needs.

"the hoarder"
Similar to the "packet", they hoard data on a consistent basis as well, but will not create complex systems, and will be slightly more flexible. Also, they will be more sociable, usually engaging in their interests during the process of socialization. This subtype is very prone to performing intense one-sided conversations.

"the cast iron"
This type has a penchant to organize their environment to fit their needs, as they are overwhelmed by flawed sensory processing and require consistent routine. They need to do this in order to function, and when put in situations where they don't have access to their comfort zone, severe to potentially extreme meltdowns may occur.

"the chargeable battery"
Often seen as a classic introvert, this subtype can be very sociable, perform well in their duties and/or be in tune with their environment - but get more and more overwhelmed as time carries on, eventually feeling a need to withdraw to perform a series of stims alone, or spend countless hours reading up on their favorite subject.

"the puppeteer"
This subtype scans the external social environment for multiple patterns or personality traits that they admire, so they can integrate them into their persona, or even fine tune them into a unique personality! They have a higher than average social intuition compared to other subtypes that may develop over time, and they are mistaken for NTs more than any other subtype, being fairly social-oriented.

"the chameleon"
Can be confused for the puppeteer at first glance, but the process is different - this type seeks to emulate other patterns and personas in a current environment in order to blend in. People of this subtype with low social intuition or experience can develop severe inferiority complexes from failures of this process.

"the absorptive architect"
The mind of this subtype has an innate purpose: to pursue their special interest with a flaming passion and intensity. They are very similar to the hoarder in intensity, but all of the focus is zeroed in on self improvement. They can become very well-versed with chronic practice, spawning successful careers and even relationships with a link to their interest.

"the screwball"
This subtype is freakin' weird, and most likely knows it - in fashion, they bask in their eccentricity and turn it into a persona. They can be at risk for ridicule since this subtype puts a great deal of emphasis on their quirks, which will temporarily cause internal filters to stop operating (in other words, their communication may manifest in a stream-of consciousness style of banter). Add ADHD into the mix, and this can be quite a trip!

"the social reconstructor"
A natural born rational, this type analyzes established social rules and finds the faults, creating a system on how things should be in society, based on their reasoning. They can get into a lot of trouble with people due to this, even to the point of destroying relationships - since it is the instinct of this type to side with logic and challenge traditional standards. Some of them can even appear to have sociopathic components.

"the trailblazer"
This is another very intuitive subtype, but their intuition is more technical than ethical. They are comfortable as solipsists due to the endless time they spend on ideas, which can make them immune to peer pressure. Their fascination with particular elements could lead to innovative discoveries and achievements which can be touted as hallmark parts of life. They can be mistaken for savants.

"the false autist"
One of the more challenged subtypes, their symptoms can be so severe they can be mistaken as cases of moderate or even classic autism. Many of these subtypes exhibit child-like behavior, live off of disability benefits, follow strict schedules, and can even find themselves living with their parents through early-to-mid adulthood.

"the superprocessor"
This subtype finds a way to repeatedly over-analyze almost every situation they find themselves in, mainly social situations. Some come up with plans to counter the problems they detect, which can be beneficial, considering how their hyper-focusing strives for perfection. On the other hand, this can breed paranoia, inferiority complexes, and anxiety.

"the coryphaeus"
This type searches for a positive outlook on their disorder, and will likely believe it is a gift. Taking a very serious and devoted approach, they feel a need to promote - starting awareness movements, or running online sites, dedicated to support anything associated with the disorder, and what they perceive as the "truth" surrounding it. In some cases, their whole life can be built around the disorder, or the disorder may become their special interest.

"the self-oblivion"
The most social-oriented subtype commonly devoid of social instinct, they are often reported by others as talking "at" them rather than "with" them. Prone to expressing themselves in inappropriate ways, they can become human targets for excessive mockery, leading them to eventually second-guess their habits, breeding anxiety and/or depression. Likely to become outcasts.

"the idea hamster"
Among the technically intuitive, this subtype is fueled by curiosity and lives for novelty. They create multiple hypothetical systems, concepts, or even movies, art, and music - based off of data they hoard, which is interpreted in their own way. While most of these systems are mostly for personal entertainment, their creativity can be a very valuable and positive source to guide them in social situations. This type is the most likely to become a famous pop-culture figure, such as an actor or musician.

"the virus"
This subtype is bombarded by multiple co-existing disorders which enhance their symptoms, which ultimately place more emphasis on their life than themselves. This eats away at their life more and more - until eventually their fascination and special interests are depleted, leading them with one desire: piece of mind. They can be prone to serious addiction to narcotic substances, wanting to escape the madness.

"lifeline"
This subtype uses their disorder as a crutch, pinpointing it as the main source of all of their problems in life. They can find themselves either getting into awkward situations, often using their disorder as an excuse, ("Oh, I'm sorry, I have AS!") or even as extreme as turning into an escapist of the world because of it - finding themselves living off of disability benefits, and wallowing in their own fantasy worlds fueled by their interests. They can exhibit schizoid tendencies at times.

"mental divorce"
The complete opposite of the "lifeline". This subtype is so ashamed of their disorder, they want no association with it - it feels like an anathema to them. They may force themselves to become extroverts, detaching from and bottling themselves up because self reflection will remind them of their disorder, and testing their abilities in the external world to no end, which after a while, could cause emotional distress, if repeatedly failing. This type is prone to drug addiction, and in severe cases, they can be confused with or almost identical to the "virus".
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Re: ***18 types of Aspergers!*** (aspie subtypes)

Postby mdagli1 » Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:28 pm

Thank you very much!
I was really struggling to understand what AS life really is all about in a simplified manner.
It also resolves over 80% of my own threads. (NT vs AS)

I most definitely identify with:
packet (trying to understand something that I don't)
hoarder (I try to avoid this)
cast iron (when I'm busy trying to do something)
chargeable battery (risk of permanent burn out)
puppeteer (super selective to whom I want to be near)
absorptive architect (conflicts with puppeteer)
social reconstructor (AS accommodaters within fixed environments)
trailblazer (unrecognised work leading to disproportionate levels of trade)
false autist (I refused to face the condition for some time)
superprocessor (super paralysing too)
coryphaeus (attempted this but failing miserably on all counts)
self-oblivion (currently dealing with this right now due to profound loss of self worth)
idea hamster (money heavily washed these away)
virus (being over needs)
lifeline (I'm guilty of using this heavily due to my own ignorance of the condition)
mental divorce (confrontation, misrepresented as faith)

Again, greatly appreciated
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Re: ***18 types of Aspergers!*** (aspie subtypes)

Postby AprilR » Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:38 pm

This is very interesting! I often feel like i'm very different from my father who also has AS, so reading this certainly made a lot of sense!I think i fit "the chameleon" best, because i often notice i behave differently when i'm with different people and i have a very strong need to "blend in" to new people and situations..
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Re: ***18 types of Aspergers!*** (aspie subtypes)

Postby louiesgonnadie » Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:52 pm

mdagli1 wrote:Thank you very much!
I was really struggling to understand what AS life really is all about in a simplified manner.
It also resolves over 80% of my own threads. (NT vs AS)

I most definitely identify with:
packet (trying to understand something that I don't)
hoarder (I try to avoid this)
cast iron (when I'm busy trying to do something)
chargeable battery (risk of permanent burn out)
puppeteer (super selective to whom I want to be near)
absorptive architect (conflicts with puppeteer)
social reconstructor (AS accommodaters within fixed environments)
trailblazer (unrecognised work leading to disproportionate levels of trade)
false autist (I refused to face the condition for some time)
superprocessor (super paralysing too)
coryphaeus (attempted this but failing miserably on all counts)
self-oblivion (currently dealing with this right now due to profound loss of self worth)
idea hamster (money heavily washed these away)
virus (being over needs)
lifeline (I'm guilty of using this heavily due to my own ignorance of the condition)
mental divorce (confrontation, misrepresented as faith)

Again, greatly appreciated


Wow - I wasn't expecting this to be of help to someone. I'm glad I made things clearer!
Though, 90% of this was based off of observation and intuition, rather than personal experiences (though as a child I mildly-moderately identified with the "cast iron", and I definitely identify with the "social reconstructor" and the "superprocessor", however those traits aren't limited to the autism spectrum)
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Re: ***18 types of Aspergers!*** (aspie subtypes)

Postby katana » Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:06 pm

Interesting that there are 16 types though some of the descriptions don't seem to centre on personality, so its probably not so interesting after all. ..but still worth bearing in mind, lol. And I doubt that's a "full inventory of autistic people", lol
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Re: ***18 types of Aspergers!*** (aspie subtypes)

Postby mdagli1 » Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:17 pm

louiesgonnadie wrote:traits aren't limited to the autism spectrum

That's fine.

It helps a lot with "acknowledging new types of autonomy" as par to Neurodiversity
The "not so scientific but looks scientific" approach works just fine for me. :)
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Re: ***18 types of Aspergers!*** (aspie subtypes)

Postby louiesgonnadie » Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:19 pm

I was thinking about breaking it down into a more categorical system, similar to the Enneagram of Personality. Like:

(!) Mental-drive (packet, hoarder, idea hamster, absorptive architect, trailblazer, superprocessor, false autist)
(#) Social-drive (chargeable battery, puppeteer, chameleon, screwball, social reconstructor, self-oblivion, cast iron)
(*) Perception-drive (coryphaeus, virus, lifeline, divorce)

So we choose one that best fits our preferred system. The icons would indicate the dichotomy. And we could number them to form a tritype. So for example, I'd probably be a *4!3#3. But my "core" type, 4 (mental divorce) comes first, which acts as the prime motivator for the person's life, in many ways. Followed by the second, which could be the sub-core, which plays a supportive role to the core. The final would probably be the tertiary, which is also supportive, but is more of a lingering entity in the mind that comes out when necessary. How the tritype manifests can be really confusing to grasp, but once you mull it over more, it makes sense. Well, to me at least.
(though it was tough to group from these types, if I would do this I'd probably fine-tune them even more, and merge some of them into more complex sub-types. eh, for now let's just entertain this idea (8
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Re: ***18 types of Aspergers!*** (aspie subtypes)

Postby louiesgonnadie » Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:41 pm

katana wrote:And I doubt that's a "full inventory of autistic people", lol


It hardly is!

ASD in a nutshell:

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Re: ***18 types of Aspergers!*** (aspie subtypes)

Postby PaulHubert » Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:24 am

Great thread, aspies are very dynamic in how they think and interact with their environments.

Closest fitting subtypes for me:

Social reconstruction: I have a need to ask the question why is he or she doing this? I sometimes envision people like apes or lions..envisioning a social circumstance thinking, asking, "who is the alpha male, who is beneath him or her,"or when seeing couples, "who is the dominant partner?" The science of passive aggressiveness interests me, a very deep but incredibly prevalent form of communication in society that manifests itself through most social actions one can witness in a day; people want to gain and/or posses something leaving a social interaction, something simple and psychologically satisfying, but they are very coy about hiding their desiret to others..and often themselves..it's selfish, but people are masters of disguising it has honest intent and a satisfactory level altruism.

Self oblivion: I've told this story numerous times, HS and college was marked by a false sense of popularity and a fascination in me by others in strange reaction to situations. The good news is that I have evolved beyond this phase.

The superprocessor: significant events are exhaustively analyzed, with every possibility explored, and different facets of those possibilities explored in depth. "Why" is asked exhaustively, and with ease, the question is answered quickly, then followed followed by a new "why."

Absorbent Architect: I get into different modes, and I will operate within the modes, accomplishing great things when the mode is consistent. I went into "powerlifting mode" one summer, my 5 meal a day diet was repetitive and strict to the tee 6 days a week, and no workouts were missed. I've experienced "make friend mode" (which manifested itself into "self oblivion mode"), "finance class mode," even "nonverbal skills mode" when I was fixated on pursuing a career in sales after college. It's not so much absorbing info of subject as much as tunnel vision goal orientation.

I'm going to vent a bit here:
What i find frustrating is that, while I can become hyper focused and commit obsessively to a task, I am weak in terms of soaking in new information in large quantities; the "sponginess" of my mind is relatively weak compared to others (especially to those with AS); anything in the realm of curriculum seems to reach "overflow" in my brain sooner than others...I envy aspies who naturally gravitate towards a subject and almost effortlessly "soak all of it in" in large quantities; I tend learn less, but hyper-analyze what I learn. I think soaking in more info, as opposed to less info with more analysis is more practical in society terms of producing positive, tangible things. My lacking of that more common AS talent kind of made me accept the diagnosis with disappointing hesitance.
Diagnosed at age 24: Answered questions and guided me to helpful resources
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Re: ***18 types of Aspergers!*** (aspie subtypes)

Postby mdagli1 » Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:01 am

There are a few more that I would like to see be filled out :

The one I'm quite famous for with small talk (hand shaking) + the cryptic
And when my mind becomes too incompatible with the outside world + the pulsar
(feel the power of the graviton waves that ripple through the fabric of my own space! :twisted: )


I see this "sub type" list as a counter argument against this other "interpersonal traits" list:
http://www.reichandlowentherapy.org/Con ... proach.pdf
Whilst it is fairly accurate in it's details, the context is too deflating to be utilised for positive use. If this alternative list was to be bulk up a bit more, it would help out a lot.
More details and more types. I would be happy to provide feedback on any focused collaboration on the anti defamatory bias for AS.

I've been trying to synchronise with the NT view of the world for far too long.
It's my turn to tell them what I think of my own adaptations of disposition.
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