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psychopathy and adhd medication

Postby Scarlett5 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:15 am

I got diagnosed with adhd when I was eight
that and apparently oppositional defiant disorder and conduct disorder according to my older brother
my parents hid the test result forms from me so I don't have complete proof

but basically I'm sixteen and I just started adhd medication. I've been taking 36 mg of concerta. Im almost positive I'm a psycopath/have aspd. I haven't been offically diagnosed, a. because psycologists cannot diagnose anybody under the age of 18 with aspd, and b. because I never plan on having that be on my medical records, and I know everybody on this website is going to come after me and claim i cant be sure and whatever shlt but I just want to know the effects of an adhd medication such as concerta on individuals with aspd.
It hasnt improved my focus very much, its f$cked up my appetite and I can't quite tell what its done emotionally. I suppose its made me a little flatter then I already was emotionally, nothing noticeable. Is it worth it to keep taking it or should I pawn it off at school? I'm mainly concerned about the effects on the way it makes my brain function in terms of observations and interactions with people and weight loss.
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Re: psychopathy and adhd medication

Postby EllaBlack » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:22 am

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29958238

To evaluate the effect of 3 months of methylphenidate (MPH) treatment on psychopathic behavior in children having attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) with and without comorbid oppositional defiant disorder (ODD). Twenty-seven children with Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, fifth ed., ADHD (13 female/14 male; aged 13.3±2.2 years old) were compared to an age/sex matched ADHD/ODD group (N=27, eight female/19 male; aged 11.8±1.9 years). The attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder rating scale (ADHD-RS) and the California Child Q-Set (CCQ) were used in both groups before MPH treatment (0.8-1.2 mg/kg/day) and 3 months thereafter. Significant reduction in the ADHD-RS scores was detected following MPH treatment in both the ADHD/ODD group and in the ADHD group (P<0.0011 and P=0.0012, respectively). Reduction in the CCQ scores was obtained in the ADHD/ODD group (P=0.0001) but not in in the ADHD group (P=0.18). A correlation was found between the reductions in the ADHD-RS and CCQ scores following MPH treatment in the ADHD/ODD group (Spearman's r=0.43, P=0.024). MPH treatment in children with ADHD/ODD was associated with reduction in psychopathic scores, and the reduction correlated with a corresponding improvement in their ADHD severity.
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Re: psychopathy and adhd medication

Postby ZeroZ » Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:21 pm

Your brain is still developing, some kids with conduct disorders become psychopaths or ASPD but not all I forget the percentage but I’m pretty sure it’s around 20-30% either way there is a good chance you will get it together as you age.

With the meds, communicate with your psychiatrist, that’s what they are there for to tweak your meds. Do yourself a favor and don’t try to figure this out on your own, you never will. Just tell the DR. What is going on let them figure it out that’s what they are getting paid to do.
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Re: psychopathy and adhd medication

Postby Jonna » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:50 pm

Your brother is gas-lighting. If they wanted to hide it from you, they would've hid it from him.
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Re: psychopathy and adhd medication

Postby Sarandipity » Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:01 pm

Not a doctor.

My eldest son who is 19 now was from nursery school hounded by teachers (I was) because they wanted to label him with ADHD. His father ticks every box for ASPD so I didn't let them label him mostly because I didn't want him to be put on meds. He is how he is but he has a good job and a gf so I feel I did the right thing because other boys his age who were diagnosed ADHD are in prison or have no qualifications.

You seem very sensible and switched on. I didn't look into effects of meds but it seems like something you could research and then decide. You're taking them now so you are finding out how they personally effect you which will take about 3 months usually to fully know if they're having a positive effect on you. Maybe keep a daily journal to note how you were that day? - mood, if you made sensible choices that conform with society or not, if you feel it's a positive or negative effect on you. Medication effects everyone differently so it could be either way. I've been on various meds and when I ask other people they tend to effect them differently so it's worth to focus on how they effect you personally.

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Re: psychopathy and adhd medication

Postby poxalis » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:56 pm

that's one of the best drugs to take daily. jmo.
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Re: psychopathy and adhd medication

Postby Reaper » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:04 pm

EllaBlack wrote:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29958238

To evaluate the effect of 3 months of methylphenidate (MPH) treatment on psychopathic behavior in children having attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) with and without comorbid oppositional defiant disorder (ODD). Twenty-seven children with Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, fifth ed., ADHD (13 female/14 male; aged 13.3±2.2 years old) were compared to an age/sex matched ADHD/ODD group (N=27, eight female/19 male; aged 11.8±1.9 years). The attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder rating scale (ADHD-RS) and the California Child Q-Set (CCQ) were used in both groups before MPH treatment (0.8-1.2 mg/kg/day) and 3 months thereafter. Significant reduction in the ADHD-RS scores was detected following MPH treatment in both the ADHD/ODD group and in the ADHD group (P<0.0011 and P=0.0012, respectively). Reduction in the CCQ scores was obtained in the ADHD/ODD group (P=0.0001) but not in in the ADHD group (P=0.18). A correlation was found between the reductions in the ADHD-RS and CCQ scores following MPH treatment in the ADHD/ODD group (Spearman's r=0.43, P=0.024). MPH treatment in children with ADHD/ODD was associated with reduction in psychopathic scores, and the reduction correlated with a corresponding improvement in their ADHD severity.


So, basically, the medication reduced their psychopathy to some degree. There's no indication of how significant the reduction was though.
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