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Mbti, enneagrams and relationships

Postby Greebo » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:54 am

I’m interested in how the various personality type indicators describe the people involved in your core relationships.

How would you type your parents, significant other, or adult children or other primary relationships in your life using either enneagrams or the mbti?

For descriptions of the enneagrams
https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-descriptions
https://www.crystalknows.com/enneagram/types

16 types of the mbti
https://www.16personalities.com/personality-types

It should be just as valid to take one of the tests and answer as you think they would, if that makes it easier.

I didn’t get any responses to a similar question in the enneagram thread and it may be that this question is simply too involved for many of you to be bothered with. However it isn’t intended to be particularly serious or in-depth but is more about getting a general overview of the other personalities in your life, so whatever anyone feels like coming up with would be grand.
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Re: Mbti, enneagrams and relationships

Postby Seili » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:28 am

I've been with my spouse for 17 years and I'd still find it nearly impossible answering on behalf of him.

Too much assuming.
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Re: Mbti, enneagrams and relationships

Postby Reaper » Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:26 pm

My daughter gets ISTP for the mbti and I think that fits her well. Not sure about the enneagram though. She's never taken that test as far as I know, and I'm not so sure how accurate it would be if I took it on her behalf, but I might give it a go sometime, or ask her to take the test herself.

I couldn't take the test on behalf of anyone else in my family. I don't talk to my siblings enough to really know what they're like and my mother is somewhat of an enigma. She's like a chameleon. She blends into her environment. You can never really be sure what's real and what's not with her.
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Re: Mbti, enneagrams and relationships

Postby Jonna » Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:10 pm

Crystalknows sucks. I like these:

http://stackemupenneagram.blogspot.com/ ... tions.html

And there's a ton of examples to go with it:

http://stackemupenneagram.blogspot.com/ ... utube.html

My cousin is a 3w2. She reminds me of Reaper. This part:

"...their overconfidence is pierced by reminders of their failings and falseness at every turn. Now having suffered persecution from non-admirers, threes believe they have confirmation of their importance, of their greatness. They put themselves on the pedestal of a messianic figure. They have a sense that history begins and ends with them, as if the transition from b.c. to a.d. occurred at some benchmark in the three's life such as raking in the first million dollars.

Unhealthy Threes are narcissistic. Their grandiosity is flagrant, maintained by disdain for reality, since reality is full of people who don’t share the threes' high sense of worth."

My sister is a 2. She reminds me of Crys/Seili. This part:

"Unhealthy Twos are masochistic. They manipulate people into keeping all their attention on them, even if the Two brings harm upon themselves in exchange for the attention. Twos grow more co-dependent and increasingly possessive of intimates. Twos are the most co-dependent personality type conditioning themselves to withstand as much abuse as the environment can throw at them. By withstanding abuse they see themselves as doing others a "noblesse oblige" service, on a deeper level assuming that abuse indicates how important they are to their abusers, which becomes another source of pride. To the extent that a two takes pride in their ability to let others abuse them, the two will go out of their way to court such abuse."

My uncle is a 6w7. He reminds me of X'd dude. These parts:

"Sixes are projecting. Others/groups become screens by which the six projects their feelings of being mistreated or harmed onto at the hands of, not ironically, the same person/entity/government the six themselves feel mistreated or harmed by. To this end sixes can be tireless crusaders on behalf of the little guy or at the other extreme, social/political demagogues.

Unhealthy sixes are paranoid....They often split reality into us versus them dichotomies. They distort the world through a highly subjective lens of "hidden meanings." They insist on connections between unconnected facts. They frequently misread cues from others in order to reinforce the belief that they are indeed being persecuted and depicted in an unfair light."

""6w7s are self-defeating. Their rashness often causes them to act quick to disarm perceived threats. They often do so at the expense of undermining themselves, or, in the extreme, provoking others into behaving in the way that the six had anticipated they would.

6w7s are volatile. When deeply paranoid, lashing out becomes the 6w7's favored form of self-protection."
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Re: Mbti, enneagrams and relationships

Postby Seili » Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:48 pm

I'm Wendy/Sixoclock/Dandy. Not Crys.
I've got no time for simultaneus usernames.

If you must, please Pm me/get to know me before talking any more $#%^.
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Re: Mbti, enneagrams and relationships

Postby poxalis » Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:40 am

i've always been with INTJs. annoying bastards. *bites lip*
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Re: Mbti, enneagrams and relationships

Postby Greebo » Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:35 am

Well I had fun doing this even if no one else did though I’m not sure there are any particularly meaningful patterns here. My parents and my partner were all around today and we ended up having a sit down and going through it together which is why those ones are different.

Mine: 1w2 sx/so EII-Fi (INFj-T)
Mother: 6w5 so/sp LSI-Se (ISTj-T)
Father: 1w2 sx/sp EII-Ne (INFj-A)
Spouse: 7w6 sx/so IEE-Fi (ENFp-A)

This group is the clan. The names won’t mean anything but I needed to be able to distinguish them for my own sake. Asterisks denote the friends that date back to sixth form and for whom I can remember the results of their original self tests. The rest is done based on my own judgement of them, I managed to get one of my Mother’s jungian dichotomies for the mbti wrong in the previous group so there are probably a few mistakes here and there.

Doormat: 8w9 ENFJ-A*
Strange: 8w7 ENTJ-A*
Lula: 7w8 ESFP-T*
Mark: 5w4 INTJ-A
Gez: 6w5 ISFJ-T*
Katie: 4w5 INTP-T*
Emily: 9w8 ESFP-A
Faiqs: 2w3 INFP-A
Tori: 4w5 INFP-A
Alice: 7w8 ESTP-A

These three are my mentors who other than my friends and parents have probably had the most dramatic impact on my life.
Klaus: 3w4 ENTJ-T
Simon: 5w6 INTP-T
Erin: 3w2 ESTJ-A
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Re: Mbti, enneagrams and relationships

Postby Greebo » Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:07 am

Reaper wrote:I couldn't take the test on behalf of anyone else in my family. I don't talk to my siblings enough to really know what they're like and my mother is somewhat of an enigma. She's like a chameleon. She blends into her environment. You can never really be sure what's real and what's not with her.
The last thing I can you remember you saying about your mother was that she was cold and manipulative and that you suspected she might be a psychopath. But you followed that by talking about how she kept getting involved with men who abused her (iirc) which sounds more in the range of borderline/vulnerable narcissism/codependency.

If I was typing a generic psychopath I’d go with 8w7 sp/sx ESTP
Based on the information I found yesterday traditional borderline would be a 6, no idea for mbti but I’d expect xNFx
Vulnerable narcissism supposedly correlates best to 4 and I’d be looking at INTJ and INFJ in the mbti.

As for your daughter ISTP is typically 5 but also occationally 6-9. I know she’s had issues with aggression and anxiety. Taking a wild swing, and assuming she hasn’t followed In your footsteps, I might look at 6 for the single solitary reason that if I grew up with a psychopath as a primary caregiver the lack of security in intimate relationships would be my primary concern.

Just spitballing some ideas or talking out of my bum, obviously, I’ve no know real knowledge of either of them
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Re: Mbti, enneagrams and relationships

Postby Reaper » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:10 am

Greebo wrote:
Reaper wrote:I couldn't take the test on behalf of anyone else in my family. I don't talk to my siblings enough to really know what they're like and my mother is somewhat of an enigma. She's like a chameleon. She blends into her environment. You can never really be sure what's real and what's not with her.

The last thing I can you remember you saying about your mother was that she was cold and manipulative and that you suspected she might be a psychopath. But you followed that by talking about how she kept getting involved with men who abused her (iirc) which sounds more in the range of borderline/vulnerable narcissism/codependency.


Yeah, but nothing ever seemed to affect her. I've never seen her cry, not once, ever. She did have a really bad temper when I was younger, but she hasn't even got that anymore. Her lack of emotion makes her almost robotic. She fakes emotion well though and I know she's faking it because I've seen both sides of her. She went from being warm, friendly and caring around people we know and as soon as they left, and it was just her and I, she went cold. It wasn't a gradual change in her demeanor either, it was almost instant.

I can't see any borderline in her in the slightest. Not sure about narcissism or codependency though. She's always gone from one relationship to the next.

She uses people. I know for a fact she married her current husband (he's not abusive) for his money. She told me she doesn't love him. I don't think she's ever loved anyone. She's close to my sister though, so maybe she loves her. Who knows.

I'd be very interested to see what she does score on that test. I might ask her to take it sometime. I highly doubt she will, but even if she does, I can't see her being honest on it anyway.
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Re: Mbti, enneagrams and relationships

Postby Squaredonutwheels » Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:06 am

I'm curious about this stuff, but the quiz format p1sses me off too much.
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