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Modern Day Jimmy Saville

Postby ShaolinMonk » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:55 am

justonemoreperson wrote:
ShaolinMonk wrote: perception of the other, and not the intent with which one may or may not choose to be recognized.


Perception is the tool. The intent is the goal. We use theory of mind on everything, because the intent of the other person is the only thing that matters. Understanding intent between humans is vital for our survival.
We perceive, or infer, motive from what we believe.

A man checks his phone in front of his girlfriend. Empirical fact. The girlfriend perceives his intent from what she believes. He's either hiding an affair or he's checking the football scores. Every eye-movement, smile or turn away movement she now sees will create a new story, a new truth, in whichever way it was first believed.


Grabbing this gem from the Pathological Lying thread.

There, I stated that it is not a question of belief.
Let's contrast that concept, 'belief" and "intent" in something rather fascinating from the perspective not of the perpetrator but rather its sycophants.

It is sickening that he delved among his fanbase to recruit ‘superfans’ — single mothers who were willing for their children to be abused by Watkins, to be given to him as sex sacrifices.

The mind boggles at these godforsaken women, these crazed and dazed fans, even willing to abuse the babies themselves for his delectation.

So, what is the fascination of these "women" to engage ?
Any ideas?
For paedophiles to succeed, they must have access to children and the security of knowing that the likelihood of being caught is remote. Watkins, like Savile, was cloaked in the protective power of fame. Like Savile, he thought he was invincible.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2515299/Like-Jimmy-Savile-Ian-Watkins-fiend-protected-sugar-coating-celebrity.html

Suppose, as he was doing this online, initially, anything thereafter would require more effort, however the 'influence' exerted where these women would abuse their children For him, would be considered what?

Not to mention, those that did engage, would certainly not be coming forward, would they?
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Postby ShaolinMonk » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:44 am

Seems this thread is causing dead silence :lol:

But xdude was brave enough to attempt to say something:

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Postby xdude » Sun Oct 13, 2019 4:37 pm
ShaolinMonk wrote:
What do you think was going on in their heads?




Seems like a bell curve case. The extremes. Extremes may stand out, but they aren't the norm. Generalizations from the extremes probably won't tell us much.


The question is: What do you think was going on in their heads?

Given my "blind spot" that everyone else seems to suffer from, be so kind as to elucidate for me?

-- Sun Oct 13, 2019 4:47 pm --

What a funny creature:

xdude wrote:
ShaolinMonk wrote:All you said was a lot of nothing.
Is that the Bluster B special? Or the side ways dance of denial?


So I am a big believer in when people are paranoid, or are dishonest, etc., it's because they are saying something about themselves. The question then is since that topic fascinates you, were you writing about your true self? It isn't mine, but why did that topic come up in your mind? It was post worthy on your part, why?


Yes, you really are.

The question was rather clear. And for some reason, you have veered off and refuse to answer in the appropriate thread, why is that?
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Postby xdude » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:51 am

There are also cases of people who are obsessed with removing one of their own limbs. It's a big population, and outside the norm happens, who knows why, they can't even explain why.

They are still the extremes. It's going to happen just like if you play roulette once in a while someone will get the winning # right two times in a row (or three etc). But those moments don't change the odds, or tell us about the normal.
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Postby ShaolinMonk » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:54 am

Bluster B ^^^ *intensifies*

Does something about it make you personally uncomfortable? As that is the read that is coming off your posts with all your fancy dancing.

Get inside the heads of the sychophants and from your Cluster B POV, tell me what you believe they might have been "thinking."
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Postby xdude » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:57 am

ShaolinMonk wrote:Does something about it make you personally uncomfortable? As that is the read that is coming off your posts with all your fancy dancing.


Nope, though I do see you have an agenda. Isn't your agenda to try and say I am a pedophile, a weak attempt to win? This is not an uncommon game (there was a double negative there, read closely), if you can't win on logic use smear tactics.

An old game, and often used.
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Postby ShaolinMonk » Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:00 am

No. That was not at any point in time "my agenda".

The question was really clear about the sycophants.
Not YOU.
( or did I stumble on to something? )
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Re: Modern Day Jimmy Saville

Postby xdude » Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:02 am

ShaolinMonk wrote:The question was really clear about the sycophants.
Not YOU.
( or did I stumble on to something? )


You didn't, I have been clear all along, sychophants suck. I much prefer people who can stand up for themselves, or just don't go down that road of being a kiss butt.

We need a hat, make America Free of Sychophants Again!
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Re: Modern Day Jimmy Saville

Postby ShaolinMonk » Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:14 am

Good. Now that we've got that out of the way.

Here's another gem: Ian Watkins 'groomed' a two-year-old girl's mother from behind bars
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/ian-watkins-two-year-old-girl-lincolnshire-wakefield-jail-a7989561.html

It is funny in a twisted way, but the question is, IF :
Perception is the tool. The intent is the goal. We use theory of mind on everything, because the intent of the other person is the only thing that matters. Understanding intent between humans is vital for our survival.
We perceive, or infer, motive from what we believe.


What is going on in their heads?

Watkin's head is pretty obvious.
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Re: Modern Day Jimmy Saville

Postby ShaolinMonk » Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:19 pm

Lostprophets singer Ian Watkins first seduced one of his twisted 'superfans' when she was aged just 15
An ex-boyfriend revealed how the girl – who went on to offer up her own baby for Watkins to abuse – was first targeted when she was still at school
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/lostprophets-singer-ian-watkins-first-2859654

“My girlfriend was about 15 when he found her on a Lostprophets chat forum and started to seduce her.

Looks like he was patient about his exploits.
Yesterday it also emerged Watkins, 36, followed in Savile’s footsteps when he visited children in hospital for a charity.

What a "sweet heart"
He was photographed in his position as “ambassador for young people” for Kidney Wales Foundation. He has been stripped of the role.

Isn't that special?
And in another chilling similarity to the Savile case, an ex-girlfriend said she believed there could be hundreds more victims.
She said: “I’ve always said to the police, there’s hundreds of victims out there and you’re never going to find them because the mothers are in on it.

Most likely the case.

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But what was the 'draw?'
It's not like they were getting any music contracts/contacts or something out of the deal. That would make some sort of sick "sense." But this was purely fked up.
The mind set of it, is something so fked up on both sides of the equation, but the sycophants of this idiot are on another level of desperately useless.
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Re: Modern Day Jimmy Saville

Postby ShaolinMonk » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:16 am

Well, seems this topic is over the target :shock: all that silence. Kind of creepy 8)

So, given that earlier Saucygirl31, Solenmlysworn and Zoospecimen were "bonding' over the incest rape porn of a retarded girl, it gives me a wonder that the "dare devil" AsPDers won't drop in with some smart ass comment?

What is causing the deluge of dead silence?
What allows for fked sycophants to abuse their kids for some freak?
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