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Postby Chainsaw » Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:53 pm

What job would fit someone with antisocial personality disorder, and why do you think that?

I know there's a high chance I and most other people here will get fired as I got almost fired for the second time at my job, but going to college gives me government benefits (I'm in The Netherlands) and I just want to work on something.

It's also a challenge to see how long I can actually keep a job. So I'm curious what you think and I'd like some inspiration and succes/failure stories.
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Re: Work

Postby saucygirl31 » Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:10 pm

idk man ppl w aspd have all sorts of interests so this is sort of a dumb question.

i like I-banking bcuz its very good money, i love numbers, u get to sell bullsht, i dont feel bad after i fuk ppl, i enjoy competition, i am efficient/time management, i like the politics in white collar jobs bcuz i come off as very responsible and well mannered (rofl), and i do well, actually thrive, under pressure.

but ur a 21 yr old female, so id choose retail cashier if i were u.
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Re: Work

Postby ShaolinMonk » Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:36 pm

Singing naked on a street corner, because unless you aren't butt ugly people will pay you to leave?

These days, work is passe, as you know. Just wander about screaming for the government to give you money and they most likely will. But get a very dark tan first :mrgreen:
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Re: Work

Postby Reaper » Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:03 pm

Chainsaw wrote:What job would fit someone with antisocial personality disorder, and why do you think that?


Any job where you're putting your own life at risk and there's an element of danger involved, where the work isn't too structured. A job that offers flexibility and some amount of unpredictability.

The jobs that come to mind are firefighters, police, rescue workers, journalists, and race car drivers. Any job that offers some amount of danger and risk, and doesn't have a set routine. Those are the jobs that personally appeal to me.

If the person with AsPD is also narcissistic, then a job as a doctor or surgeon may suit, and there's good money in it, but I really can't see someone with AsPD staying committed to the training it takes to become a doctor/surgeon.

Working in the banking sector would also be ideal as long as it's a job where there is some amount of risk involved, and high stakes.

I can't think of anything else at the moment.
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Re: Work

Postby justonemoreperson » Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:00 am

@OP

From experience:

Something that's going to be task-focused and not involve too many other people. Stay away from management jobs; the narc tendency will make you want to be a manager but you'll be sh1t at it.

I've found I'm much better at contractor jobs, where I'm coin-operated rather than working full time for a corporation.

Sales might work if you have the personality for it. Do you have any skills? There are jobs that require some training but, if you're interested in the subject, can provide you with an interesting career if you're willing to put up with some risk.

Can you weld? Deep sea welding / oil rig work is dangerous but can pay well.

If you have tech skills, there are plenty of contract jobs that will take you to places that not many people want to go. There are countries in South America, Middle-East, Africa and parts of Asia where they'll pay you good money to work restoring comms services or building work in areas hit by civil war / disasters etc. (Most of the money for long-term foreign contracts is tax free for a couple of years)

^This is what I do and it's perfect. You spend most of your time getting paid waiting around for other people to do stuff, the expenses are pretty much unlimited because they're often government / charity sponsored and you spend most of your time drinking with other contractors / aid workers. Once you do one, you'll meet other people who can put you on to contracts in other places.

(So, next time you see a advert on TV to give money to some charity where little brown kids have been left homeless due to civil war, don't forget to give some money; that's my bar bill you're paying)

There are agencies that you can register with that will find these for you, but you'll need to have skills that they're looking for.

Another one is cable-monkey work. There are a few agencies that will hire people on a few weeks at a time contracts pulling in data cabling etc in new builds / highways. You don't need much skill for these, apart from some experience which can be faked (although the money's not great).
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Re: Work

Postby Seili » Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:35 am

I used to want to be a doctor, but that was just because I thought I could have something to add, aside of being comprehensively interested in health and loving puzzles.
In my own experience not many doctors know how to be impartial and how to _listen_. It actually really requires some empathy. It's sometimes almost absurd to see a doctor deliberately bypass important clues, for dissenting opinions are not allowed.

My current job is somewhat fast paced and I love how it keeps me occupied, but I'm just a plain Jane girl next door, not a risk taker.
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Re: Work

Postby solemnlysworn » Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:54 am

I work in enterprise sales. It works for me. The pipeline is a little long-winded for each sale, taking between 6 weeks and 9 months, depending on the company more than anything. The hours can be good. I often wake up with a hangover, still strung out, and can afford to get in late or not go at all if I really want. I took a few days off the other week because of that. Otherwise, I have enjoyed #######4 in presentations and working lunches and I've liked sitting across from people later on and taking them for more than they bargained for. The office is fine until people are on my ass for $#%^ but I have people above me who generally look out for me.

The job in general though is jading on me. I'm bored and need something interesting. I've been slightly risky and gotten into trouble a few times for inappropriate selling, by doing more than we are allowed through entertaining, and adding things that caught people out that they were not expecting. Nothing serious but internally a few slap-on-the-wrists even though what I did was good for us. I suppose the company here doesn't want people feeling like we're dealing in bad faith and more importantly don't want a fine from the regulators which is fair enough but nothing's been uncovered and nothing has happened so we're okay.

Later this month I'm to move fully into a consulting role in-house which'll be good I hope. Basically just excel spreadsheets and powerpoint for the most part but if they'll allow me I can do more business analysis and work on strategy. That's the main reason I was tapped to switch over so I do hope I get the exposure I want. If not, I have to decide to pull my finger out and go with the drawn-out plan I was supposed to take up anyway. It's a fair step down in take-home but that's not the reason I got into sales anyway. Tbh it was just dick measuring.

I think sales could be good for those with psychopathic traits. Probably anybody with AsPD want faster sale cycles so I imagine something like Time Shares or other consumer sales would fare better.

-- Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:03 am --

This place also gave me time off as compassionate leave to go into rehab without asking too many questions in December. They look out for me because I'm good and I think that's the really great thing about sales. There's no #######4 about why you're there and if you do well then everybody wins. You get a portion of what you kill too so there is incentive to do it. I'm not sure how long I could spend in a job where the idea was to count down the clock. Money was never the factor. I guess I want a chase and something to handle. More equity exposure would be nice but performance works well enough
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Re: Work

Postby solemnlysworn » Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:10 am

saucygirl31 wrote:idk man ppl w aspd have all sorts of interests so this is sort of a dumb question.

i like I-banking bcuz its very good money, i love numbers, u get to sell bullsht, i dont feel bad after i fuk ppl, i enjoy competition, i am efficient/time management, i like the politics in white collar jobs bcuz i come off as very responsible and well mannered (rofl), and i do well, actually thrive, under pressure.

but ur a 21 yr old female, so id choose retail cashier if i were u.


This is a good choice. Idk how trading would go for a guy with AsPD. I guess probably pretty good if they can keep the math straight. IB probably is better suited to the skillset because it's on the softskills as much as being a VBA/pitch-book monkey. if you can hold out, it definitely seems worth the while.

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justonemoreperson wrote:Something that's going to be task-focused and not involve too many other people. Stay away from management jobs; the narc tendency will make you want to be a manager but you'll be sh1t at it.


Yeah I think this is a slippery slope I keep edging towards. Narc in me wants everyone in a line. lol.

Good suggestions though. I like the variety.
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Re: Work

Postby justonemoreperson » Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:27 am

solemnlysworn wrote:
Yeah I think this is a slippery slope I keep edging towards. Narc in me wants everyone in a line. lol.

Good suggestions though. I like the variety.


I lost a good job because I got promoted to manager. Then I had to take care of employees and manage budgets and stuff. I had no long-term focus and was too impulsive, pissed off the management, got sacked under a compromise agreement, given about £60k in payment, told to f*ck off and blew it all in six months.

Most of the stuff I've done or am doing, so I know what works, apart from the oil-rig one. I knew a rig welder; worked about three months of the year and was loaded.
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Re: Work

Postby salles » Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:46 pm

Seili wrote:I used to want to be a doctor, but that was just because I thought I could have something to add, aside of being comprehensively interested in health and loving puzzles.
In my own experience not many doctors know how to be impartial and how to _listen_. It actually really requires some empathy. It's sometimes almost absurd to see a doctor deliberately bypass important clues, for dissenting opinions are not allowed.

My current job is somewhat fast paced and I love how it keeps me occupied, but I'm just a plain Jane girl next door, not a risk taker.


You loose empathy when you have to deal with hypochondriacs and a bureaucratic system that forces you to practice defensively, rather than positively. Litigation is huge. Reimbursement is poor. Most health care systems are designed in such a way that a Doctor has to see 1000's of patients in a limited space of time, before earning much. They are the most disillusioned and depressed profession I know. If one is gonna do medicine the only way to go is to specialise. Surgeons don't need empathy. And they get away with being fckwits unlike the poor 'ole G.P.
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