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Re: Thoughts on Death as Death?

Postby cinnamoncookie » Sun May 19, 2019 11:43 am

justonemoreperson wrote:Actually it makes me feel less comfortable.

It doesn't. It makes you feel comfortable to think you're more rational than "most people".

Explain why you think I'm not open-minded.

I think your signature is explanation enough. You need something to prove your current belief wrong before you change your course of thought and that's not an indicator of being very open-minded.
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Re: Thoughts on Death as Death?

Postby justonemoreperson » Sun May 19, 2019 11:51 am

Well, my course of thought on this one is that I think the two most likely possibilities are... Not sure how that insists that I need to be proved wrong, when I 'm not sure if they're right to begin with.

Odd that no one has argued with my first possibility, which is the most likely; that we just die. You seem to be happy that I make that claim.

Personally, I think my reasoning through this entire forum in general provides enough evidence that I'm open minded to most stuff, if you can give good reason.

You need something to prove your current belief wrong before you change your course of thought


Well, that's how science works - you come up with an idea and measure it against the facts. I'd like someone to argue my idea beyond just saying it's stupid or making out that I'm the one at fault for suggesting it.

What do you believe?
I'm not arguing; I'm explaining why I'm right.
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Re: Thoughts on Death as Death?

Postby cinnamoncookie » Sun May 19, 2019 12:11 pm

justonemoreperson wrote:You seem to be happy that I make that claim.

Just not as surprised/confused as you claiming we all live in the matrix.

Well, that's how science works

I understand how science works, thanks. You don't seem to be open to new ideas on an above average level to me. Your last post didn't change my opinion.

What do you believe?

If I say "we just die", will you be all like "hah!"?
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Re: Thoughts on Death as Death?

Postby justonemoreperson » Sun May 19, 2019 12:16 pm

cinnamoncookie wrote:If I say "we just die", will you be all like "hah!"?


I'd say that's most likely what happens.

Your last post didn't change my opinion.


I'll try to make it through the night.
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Re: Thoughts on Death as Death?

Postby vcrpamphlet » Sun May 19, 2019 12:38 pm

TheUnknownofall wrote:With this, I mean not of what you think of afterlife or what happens before.

Plain and simple, what is death to you?
Also yes, I am talking in real general terms not limited to animal, action or else.

Pherhaps what is the first thing that comes in mind, or what you see it as.


The first half of Greebo's answer to this is delicious.

How does entropy factor into it though? A system shutdown and an entropic state seem fairly different from a laymen pov.

I can't tell if I care about death anymore, in the long-run: accepting the stuff Greebo said, there's very literally nothing to be afraid of - the closure of perception renders it invisible, like caring about not being able to breath in space - there's no reason to care about it unless your attachment to self goes beyond basic reason.

In the more short-term, just the ego wanting to tick a few more boxes and an aversion to extreme pain that keep certain things guided from stupidity. But even that stuff would go away were the prospect suddenly inevitable in the near future. Would say Eastern philosophies embrace it better than Westerners, Buddhism especially.
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Re: Thoughts on Death as Death?

Postby ZeroZ » Sun May 19, 2019 1:21 pm

I’m not sure but I believe their is more than just a simple end. Maybe it’s a simple as the soul is a rhythm of electrical pulses a field of sorts that gets transferred into another form after we die, maybe it goes somewhere or maybe it slowly fizzles out.

I don’t know but and nobody who is still alive does, I prefer it to be a mystery. It’s interesting to think about occasionally but I’d rather find out when my time comes and if I just cease to exist I won’t be around to be disappointed so I’m not too concerned.

My personal feelings, I have a strong survival instinct that kick in when I feel threatened and that has probably kept me from killing myself at times I’m not sure, because thinking about it I don’t care one way or another, I don’t particularly care either way, it’s an interesting void to exist in
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Re: Thoughts on Death as Death?

Postby TheUnknownofall » Sun May 19, 2019 5:56 pm

That's the thing, I actually do remember, but I can't be 100% sure it is a past life memory.

I remember being an Asian boy, living on the Yangtze river, and drowning in the big flood in 1931. I was 16 years old when I died.

The past life memory felt so real that I did a search and found this:

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-his ... s-in-china

On this day in 1931, the Yangtze River in China peaks during a horrible flood that kills 3.7 million people directly and indirectly over the next several months. This was perhaps the worst natural disaster of the 20th century.

If it's possible for the human soul to retain memory in some way to some degree, then it's certainly plausible that some of us may remember our past lives.



That is actually quite intresting, I love reading about such events.

I have never had any reincarnation memory, the first thing I remember in my life was just white like a blank piece of paper.

I am leaning towards reincarnation as there have been many casses of it, but also on believe it or not Heaven and Hell.
I know you'd think the church designed this, but I even see athists experience this.
That being said, eyewitness evidence is the maybe the only evidence of the afterlife we have.
Altough there may have been screams of Hell heard in some tunnels among other tales of people seeing gates of it in say some dark forest.
Not to forget ghosts or "demon" sightings we still have to this day.


Getting more scientific, I think that we may make progress with the medical aspect and making people come back to life.
Also, to note is the conscious state, we have to remember as for example I am typing this I won't be conscious when you are reading it at this moment.

By that I mean I'd think death may have to do with our "frequency" of the brain, much like sounds may change meditative states. Then you think the brain is dead when you are dead? Well yes but the "frequency" or I'd look at it more like a wifi signal..

I could go on and on about this for hours but ill stop here.
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Re: Thoughts on Death as Death?

Postby Manners73 » Sun May 19, 2019 6:27 pm

I like the idea of there being absolutely nothing after life.

I really would not want to have to do it all over again.
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Re: Thoughts on Death as Death?

Postby Bellicose » Sun May 19, 2019 6:34 pm

I find the idea of reincarnation romantic. The feeling you get when you around someone and you feel like you have known them for a lifetime or met them before. The idea that life is about learning lessons and evolving as a person.

It's more of a romanticism than a belief.

Death is death. Not something to be scared of. When the curtain closes on your stage you won't realise it anyway.
I'll slip through your fingers like water.
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Re: Thoughts on Death as Death?

Postby Brandon1 » Sun May 19, 2019 10:02 pm

Manners73 wrote:I really would not want to have to do it all over again.

You wouldn't remember the life you have now.
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