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Is the LSRP checklist reliable?

Postby MaleHuman » Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:13 pm

Is the LSRP checklist reliable(When used in a self test and answered honestly)? Is it highly possible that a Machiavellian schizoid who scores high in primary psychopathy and medium(2.8 I guess this is medium) in secondary psychopathy be mistaken for a "primary psychopath"?
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Re: Is the LSRP checklist reliable?

Postby MaleHuman » Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:27 pm

Btw the person who took the test actually didn't answer it with full honesty, for example
Success is based on survival of the fittest; I am not concerned about the losers.
His idea was "Success is based on utilizing what you have available, losers should be used well or sometimes even left alone. But sometimes they can be used by others against you too." He chose "Agree" because he thinks what it's asking is: "Do you care about the fate of losers?" "No"
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Re: Is the LSRP checklist reliable?

Postby SoloZombie » Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:51 pm

A Machiavellian Schizoid! I thought Naps had the market cornered on that concept?
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Re: Is the LSRP checklist reliable?

Postby Oblivion » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:11 pm

Naps wasn't Machiavellian. Naps was a nice guy!
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Re: Is the LSRP checklist reliable?

Postby HSS » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:19 pm

MaleHuman wrote:Is the LSRP checklist reliable(When used in a self test and answered honestly)?


According to some studies, it would seem so. A 2011 study called it "a promising, efficient measure of the psychopathic personality" and a 2008 study determined the test is "a reasonable, albeit imperfect, measure of psychopathy.
Source: https://curiosity.com/topics/the-levens ... curiosity/ ... but would it be this source reliable? :roll:

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Btw, this could be perhaps useful: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5773402/

I didn't read it.
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Re: Is the LSRP checklist reliable?

Postby MaleHuman » Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:56 pm

HSS wrote:
MaleHuman wrote:Is the LSRP checklist reliable(When used in a self test and answered honestly)?


According to some studies, it would seem so. A 2011 study called it "a promising, efficient measure of the psychopathic personality" and a 2008 study determined the test is "a reasonable, albeit imperfect, measure of psychopathy.
Source: https://curiosity.com/topics/the-levens ... curiosity/ ... but would it be this source reliable? :roll:

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Btw, this could be perhaps useful: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5773402/

I didn't read it.


Thank you. Is it possible that someone who scored 4.9 on the primary and 2.8 on the secondary is a neurotypical or sociopath instead of a psychopath? I heard that psychopaths feel zero anxiety no matter what.
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Re: Is the LSRP checklist reliable?

Postby SoloZombie » Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:20 pm

Primary would line up with factor one psychopathy which is callous, unemotional, manipulative, shallow affect and lacking empathy.

Secondary would be factor 2 psychopath or socioapathy which is anti social behavior, impulsivity, this lines up closer to ASPD.

So in theory you results would suggest a primary psychopath, however take self report test with a grain of salt. Psychopaths in prison have a long history of manipulating tests and psychologists by casting themselves in the best light possible so they can get early release or special privileges.
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Re: Is the LSRP checklist reliable?

Postby solemnlysworn » Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:28 pm

MaleHuman wrote:Is it possible that someone who scored 4.9 on the primary and 2.8 on the secondary is a neurotypical or sociopath instead of a psychopath? I heard that psychopaths feel zero anxiety no matter what.


F1 has been unrelated or negatively associated with psychological distress & anxiety and positively associated with social dominance & emotional detachment. F2 tends to correlate well with other facets of neuroticism such as depression, self-consciousness, impulsiveness and vulnerability.

https://imgur.com/lmffxoI

It's 'possible' for anybody to score 4.9 on F1, given all that is needed is inaccurate self-portrayal, whether intentional or not. There was another study I came across a couple of years ago that showed the result of pwNPD testing on the Levenson Self-report, generally demonstrating high F1 and low F2 scores. The psychologist leading the study mentioned that the scoring seemed in line with the narcissist's self-image rather than the domain level pathology, when looking particularly at negative affect (which is why they score so low on there and high in emotional detachment when self-assessing).
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Re: Is the LSRP checklist reliable?

Postby Manners73 » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:14 pm

Oblivion wrote:Naps wasn't Machiavellian. Naps was a nice guy!


You talk as if he's dead.
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Re: Is the LSRP checklist reliable?

Postby MaleHuman » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:25 am

solemnlysworn wrote:
MaleHuman wrote:Is it possible that someone who scored 4.9 on the primary and 2.8 on the secondary is a neurotypical or sociopath instead of a psychopath? I heard that psychopaths feel zero anxiety no matter what.


F1 has been unrelated or negatively associated with psychological distress & anxiety and positively associated with social dominance & emotional detachment. F2 tends to correlate well with other facets of neuroticism such as depression, self-consciousness, impulsiveness and vulnerability.

https://imgur.com/lmffxoI

It's 'possible' for anybody to score 4.9 on F1, given all that is needed is inaccurate self-portrayal, whether intentional or not. There was another study I came across a couple of years ago that showed the result of pwNPD testing on the Levenson Self-report, generally demonstrating high F1 and low F2 scores. The psychologist leading the study mentioned that the scoring seemed in line with the narcissist's self-image rather than the domain level pathology, when looking particularly at negative affect (which is why they score so low on there and high in emotional detachment when self-assessing).


Ty. The possibility of being a narcissist is very enlightening, as I previously failed to count this in. Maybe some NPD tests will help. :)
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