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In your perspective, where's the line between abuse and ....

Postby NotAsCrazyAsIThought » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:32 am

...respectively playing/joking to abusively toying with people.
... to just a needed and fair punishment, like a sibling hitting and scaring the kid, or maybe even restricting the child.
(I think the sensible nature of every kid makes it seem worse than it actually is, so kid grows up thinking it was abused)

where's the line that defines what's abuse and what's not for you?

Not only in these situations, but many others like jobs, familiar stuff, relationships etc.

Keeping in mind that it's an abuser and abused situation, some people are prone to have a victimist mindset, and then they blame everything and everyone around them, then everything is abuse. Or they're just more sensible and/or less tolerant, so in their perspective, it is actually abuse.

On the other hand, some abusers "hurt" others because they're more tolerant, and generally takes things less seriously, so in their mind they're not really abusing, but just friendly playing with others.

the parent who thinks is doing the right thing, but in the kid perspective, it's a horrible thing. Is an example
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Re: In your perspective, where's the line between abuse and ....

Postby caspin » Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:13 am

NotAsCrazyAsIThought wrote:...respectively playing/joking to abusively toying with people.
... to just a needed and fair punishment, like a sibling hitting and scaring the kid, or maybe even restricting the child.
(I think the sensible nature of every kid makes it seem worse than it actually is, so kid grows up thinking it was abused)

where's the line that defines what's abuse and what's not for you?

Not only in these situations, but many others like jobs, familiar stuff, relationships etc.

Keeping in mind that it's an abuser and abused situation, some people are prone to have a victimist mindset, and then they blame everything and everyone around them, then everything is abuse. Or they're just more sensible and/or less tolerant, so in their perspective, it is actually abuse.

On the other hand, some abusers "hurt" others because they're more tolerant, and generally takes things less seriously, so in their mind they're not really abusing, but just friendly playing with others.

the parent who thinks is doing the right thing, but in the kid perspective, it's a horrible thing. Is an example

I joke around a lot but not with my family. Abuse is if you cant take the same treatment you are giving others.
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Re: In your perspective, where's the line between abuse and ....

Postby Poisonchocolate » Sat Dec 22, 2018 1:13 pm

It becomes abusive when it continues even after the abuser is aware of the genuine discomfort it causes to the abused. If they aren't aware? Not abuse. If it doesn't truly cause genuine discomfort? Not abuse.
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Re: In your perspective, where's the line between abuse and ....

Postby NotAsCrazyAsIThought » Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:00 am

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I come from a place where my language works very differently from english. Forgive me if I sound confusing or if I misunderstand anything.
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Re: In your perspective, where's the line between abuse and ....

Postby Manners73 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:40 pm

I can never work out where one ends and another begins.

My brother used to beat me up when I was a kid. He was 5 years older than me but I never saw it as abuse and I still have a hard time in accepting that it was abuse.

I'm quite similar in a sence that I can be just playing with a person and I'm later told that I've been really verbally abusive and hurt the persons feelings and I've not noticed because I'm too busy having my fun.

It's a difficult question for me to answer.
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Re: In your perspective, where's the line between abuse and ....

Postby solemnlysworn » Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:47 pm

Abuse is a loaded word. It's hard to define abuse. Intent is less important than consequence. Normative ethics play an important role. Abuse violates some underlying right somebody has and it causes harm.
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