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Psychopathy, a different perspective

Postby Solowolfpack » Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:02 pm

http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/psychot ... psychopath Pg1.

http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/psychot ... h/page/0/1 pg2.

It’s an article I pulled of the Internet, so grain of salt I suppose but I find this interesting because it paints a completely different picture than the general public has and the one that is expressed on this board. Does this resonate with anyone here?
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Re: Psychopathy, a different perspective

Postby cutecactus » Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:19 pm

Not a psychopath but this is exactly how I see it, though I also think there are people who have completely destroyed every last trace of their non side by being in environments where this would be beneficial all their lives and psychopathy wouldn't be seen as something disorder related there
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Re: Psychopathy, a different perspective

Postby caspin » Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:41 pm

Interesting.

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cutecactus wrote:Not a psychopath but this is exactly how I see it, though I also think there are people who have completely destroyed every last trace of their non side by being in environments where this would be beneficial all their lives and psychopathy wouldn't be seen as something disorder related there

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Re: Psychopathy, a different perspective

Postby PsychoGenesis » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:30 pm

im still reading but the part about lithium seems right

there's an experimental drug which was shown to be effective for this and for bipolar patiens too
its called "axs-05"
i found it to be almost a cure for psychopathy
after i tried it i got sure something was deeply wrong with me
its what made me research the disorder and find this forum

too bad that after 3-4 days tolerance builds and the 5ht1a>OXTR pathway stops working, ht1a autoreceptors are tough to control
the mood stabilizing effect kinda keeps working but its not that useful for me
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Re: Psychopathy, a different perspective

Postby Solowolfpack » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:59 pm

PsychoGenesis wrote:im still reading but the part about lithium seems right

there's an experimental drug which was shown to be effective for this and for bipolar patiens too
its called "axs-05"
i found it to be almost a cure for psychopathy
after i tried it i got sure something was deeply wrong with me
its what made me research the disorder and find this forum

too bad that after 3-4 days tolerance builds and the 5ht1a>OXTR pathway stops working, ht1a autoreceptors are tough to control
the mood stabilizing effect kinda keeps working but its not that useful for me


I’m on a fairly solid dose of SSRIs and they definitely help manage my aggression, and mood swings. My psych My last T had me see wanted to put me on mood stabilizers but I didn’t want anymore brain drugs at that point. It is very interesting, I can identify with the part where it talks about feeling lacking for not being able to form close bonds with people.

Especially in a romantic relationship, I see some of my friends go through a nasty divorce, they are devestated the they meet someone new and like that they are doing everything together, they are really close and inseparable. I don’t get that part, even when I feel like I’m close to someone they think I’m distant and I don’t give a shlt. I certainly can’t form bonds with people in that fashion like they do.
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Re: Psychopathy, a different perspective

Postby PsychoGenesis » Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:21 pm

Solowolfpack wrote:
PsychoGenesis wrote:im still reading but the part about lithium seems right

there's an experimental drug which was shown to be effective for this and for bipolar patiens too
its called "axs-05"
i found it to be almost a cure for psychopathy
after i tried it i got sure something was deeply wrong with me
its what made me research the disorder and find this forum

too bad that after 3-4 days tolerance builds and the 5ht1a>OXTR pathway stops working, ht1a autoreceptors are tough to control
the mood stabilizing effect kinda keeps working but its not that useful for me


I’m on a fairly solid dose of SSRIs and they definitely help manage my aggression, and mood swings. My psych My last T had me see wanted to put me on mood stabilizers but I didn’t want anymore brain drugs at that point. It is very interesting, I can identify with the part where it talks about feeling lacking for not being able to form close bonds with people.

Especially in a romantic relationship, I see some of my friends go through a nasty divorce, they are devestated the they meet someone new and like that they are doing everything together, they are really close and inseparable. I don’t get that part, even when I feel like I’m close to someone they think I’m distant and I don’t give a shlt. I certainly can’t form bonds with people in that fashion like they do.

SSRI's work by downregulating 5ht1-a so you'd be a good responder to AXS-05 / DXM+bup


this bonding thing is funny, when you believe it makes you turn a blind eye for reasoning

it makes no sense for me why people get attached to it, its almost like a cult thing
their subconscious is so attached to ''being right'' that they feel a need to ignore the truth even to their detriment...

like Elon Musk said to Joe Rogan everything people are doing now is to please their limbic system.

now look at monks and people that meditate for years, their brain patterns are that of psychopaths, yet they are very empathetic people, but how so? did they choose to be psychopaths?? or did they learn how to focus in the present moment instead?
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Re: Psychopathy, a different perspective

Postby solemnlysworn » Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:47 pm

I tried a course of SSRIs for about 6 months. I noticed that it only made me flatter, more dissociated most of the time. It induced a generalised anxiety (bodily sensation), sickness, and issues with sexual performance. I felt tired all the time and my eating was worse.

The idea behind it seems to be to constrict affect so if you're already limited then isn't it a little pointless? It seems as though unless you experience strong/moderate negative affect then it's not going to be effective.

Just my two cents but stims worked better.
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Re: Psychopathy, a different perspective

Postby PsychoGenesis » Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:07 pm

solemnlysworn wrote:I tried a course of SSRIs for about 6 months. I noticed that it only made me flatter, more dissociated most of the time. It induced a generalised anxiety (bodily sensation), sickness, and issues with sexual performance. I felt tired all the time and my eating was worse.

The idea behind it seems to be to constrict affect so if you're already limited then isn't it a little pointless? It seems as though unless you experience strong/moderate negative affect then it's not going to be effective.

Just my two cents but stims worked better.


its MOA is blocking 5ht1a receptors to sensitize the autoreceptors and replace your endogenous serotonin(barely normal levels)
but it takes a long ass time to upregulate 5ht1-a autoreceptors(months) this causes a lot of sides and some people commit suicide

stims i tried this year were selegiline and phenethylamine(the love drug)
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Re: Psychopathy, a different perspective

Postby solemnlysworn » Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:12 pm

I don't know much about the science behind it-- Are you saying that flat affect (rather than negative affect) can be resolved through a long enough course of serotonin treatment? My understanding was it was to regulate so that people feel good more often when they feel bad by default, rather than to stimulate more feeling in general
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Re: Psychopathy, a different perspective

Postby PsychoGenesis » Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:15 pm

solemnlysworn wrote:I don't know much about the science behind it-- Are you saying that flat affect (rather than negative affect) can be resolved through a long enough course of serotonin treatment? My understanding was it was to regulate so that people feel good more often when they feel bad, rather than to stimulate more feeling in general

no, i mean it may work for people low on serotonin
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