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Re: Psychopathy, a different perspective

Postby Solowolfpack » Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:31 pm

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Re: Psychopathy, a different perspective

Postby xcagedsilhouttex » Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:33 pm

Primary and secondary psychopathy:

Is that an actual (psychological) thing? What is the history behind it? I did a test on here and the scores for both primary and secondary psychopathy were equal. Why would I specifically score high on these tests when I don't even have a full AsPD diagnosis?

Psychopathy is a confusing term to me and I have a mental block against it.
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Re: Psychopathy, a different perspective

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Re: Psychopathy, a different perspective

Postby Solowolfpack » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:54 pm

xcagedsilhouttex wrote:Primary and secondary psychopathy:

Is that an actual (psychological) thing? What is the history behind it? I did a test on here and the scores for both primary and secondary psychopathy were equal. Why would I specifically score high on these tests when I don't even have a full AsPD diagnosis?

Psychopathy is a confusing term to me and I have a mental block against it.


Really depends on where the definition is coming from but it seems to me the most commonly accepted definitions are primary psychopathy is more interpersonal, how you relate to others and specific personality traits, this is true psychopathy and is more where you see lack of empathy, lack or regret, and manipulative behavior.

Secondary psychopathy is more behavioral based and thought of a sociopathy, so this would be anti social and criminal behavior, impulse behavior, to make it even more confusing a lot of the symptoms overlap.
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Re: Psychopathy, a different perspective

Postby HSS » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:31 am

PsychoGenesis wrote:look at monks and people that meditate for years, their brain patterns are that of psychopaths


It's interesting. Did you read it somewhere?
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Re: Psychopathy, a different perspective

Postby vcrpamphlet » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:53 am

Same gamma patterns maybe. But the two states are nothing alike at the qualitative level. Advanced meditation, when you reach what's called a state of dissolution, has been described as "the state of being awake just enough, to enjoy being dead" - which hits the nail on the head. Psychopathy, by comparison, is like an angry vacuum.
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Re: Psychopathy, a different perspective

Postby PsychoGenesis » Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:07 pm

vcrpamphlet wrote:Same gamma patterns maybe. But the two states are nothing alike at the qualitative level. Advanced meditation, when you reach what's called a state of dissolution, has been described as "the state of being awake just enough, to enjoy being dead" - which hits the nail on the head. Psychopathy, by comparison, is like an angry vacuum.

same amygdala disconnection pattern too
but they direct this to something meaningful so the PFC gets thicker instead of shrinking like in secondary psycophathy
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Re: Psychopathy, a different perspective

Postby vcrpamphlet » Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:19 pm

Wasn't aware of that. Source?

Serious meditators have substantially increased grey matter, which would seemingly be the opposite. I haven't looked into the comparison between the two - Dutton mentions it in the Wisdom of Psychopaths, how one Tibetan monk showed nil gamma reaction to a random gun shot a few inches from their head, but that's so well known it's become myth. It's only been suggested from what I've read that meditators and psychopaths have similar focus and non-reactiveness and self-control.
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Re: Psychopathy, a different perspective

Postby HSS » Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:46 pm

Wow. This is really interesting, thank you vcrpamphlet and PsychoGenesis!

Maybe I'll do some research, I'd like to know more about that.
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Re: Psychopathy, a different perspective

Postby justonemoreperson » Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:51 pm

It's worth trying, I guess. Worse case is that it's a waste of time.
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