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Wanting Fame/Notoriety

Postby Reaper » Wed May 16, 2018 11:25 am

I came across this article today that I thought would make for a good thread topic:

Many Serial Killers Crave Public Notoriety

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/wicked-deeds/201805/many-serial-killers-crave-public-notoriety

- If you were a serial killer would you want some kind of infamy or notoriety in the media, like Jack The Ripper or The Zodiac Killer? Why or why not?

- If you could leave a mark or signature that allows the media to give you a specific name, what kind of mark or signature would you leave? (for example: You carve a smiley face into your victims. The media then dubs you as The Smiley Face Killer)

- Have you ever wanted to be famous for some other reason, maybe as a celebrity, like an actor or well-known artist etc? If yes, what would you want to be famous for and why?

- If you've never wanted fame or notoriety, is it because you wouldn't want the attention that comes with it or some other reason?

- Any thoughts you'd like to share on the article I linked?
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Re: Wanting Fame/Notoriety

Postby madness00 » Wed May 16, 2018 1:18 pm

I've always preferred to remain under the radar, and don't like too much attention, but i do wish to inflict the world with the pains that i feel, largely coming from being misunderstood.

That said, notoriety appeals to me. So i can share my stories.

I want to help the world's over population problem.
I want to help the world get rid of blood-sucking whores and hobos.

But most of all, i just want some great sex and the ultimate control. And my idea of great sex is making someone think they're about to die, and ultimate control is from finishing the deed.

I'd likely carve a meaningful symbol onto the victims forehead.
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Re: Wanting Fame/Notoriety

Postby KvotheTheRaven » Wed May 16, 2018 1:36 pm

I don't have enough faith in my abilities to not make an error that would get me caught if I were to display victims as a serial killer. If I was, I would take getting rid of the bodies so they would never be found as my top priority. Fame is not worth my freedom. However, if I was a serial killer I would consider it an addition to my art portfolio. In that sense, it would be a shame not to display it.

- If you were a serial killer would you want some kind of infamy or notoriety in the media, like Jack The Ripper or The Zodiac Killer? Why or why not?

In a world where I could display and not go to jail, I would. As I said above, it would be creating art. People create art to be viewed and trigger a response. The bigger the response and more emotionally charged, the better you art work is because it has achieved its goal.

- If you could leave a mark or signature that allows the media to give you a specific name, what kind of mark or signature would you leave? (for example: You carve a smiley face into your victims. The media then dubs you as The Smiley Face Killer)

I would drain the blood from my victims and dress them up like porcelain dolls. Maybe remove their eyes. You never choose your own nickname. I have no idea what I would be dubbed if I were to do that.

- Have you ever wanted to be famous for some other reason, maybe as a celebrity, like an actor or well-known artist etc? If yes, what would you want to be famous for and why?

Art or writing. It's nice to have people appreciate what you create.

- If you've never wanted fame or notoriety, is it because you wouldn't want the attention that comes with it or some other reason?

I wouldn't want to go to jail or be infamous rather than famous. I am also a private person, I don't want people to know about my affairs more than necessary. I don't want stalkers.
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Re: Wanting Fame/Notoriety

Postby Reaper » Wed May 16, 2018 2:09 pm

Since the murder thread got locked I'll post these articles here. Some parts of the articles relate to this thread as well anyway. If any of you are up for some reading they're pretty interesting:

I Just Wanna Be a Serial Killer

- https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/shadow-boxing/201210/i-just-wanna-be-serial-killer

I Wanna Be a Serial Killer, Part 2

- https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/shadow-boxing/201604/i-wanna-be-serial-killer-part-2

I Wanna Be a Serial Killer #3

- https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/shadow-boxing/201709/i-wanna-be-serial-killer-3

Sugar and Spice, and a Nasty Little Vice

- https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/shadow-boxing/201607/sugar-and-spice-and-nasty-little-vice

The "Dexter" Murders

- https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/shadow-boxing/201401/the-dexter-murders

The Sociopath-Serial Killer Connection

- https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/wicked-deeds/201409/the-sociopath-serial-killer-connection
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Re: Wanting Fame/Notoriety

Postby Siegfried » Wed May 16, 2018 2:22 pm

Reputation is certainly a useful tool, but in the context of serial killing I don't see it serving any other purpose than ego-stroking for the sake of it. Oh, you want to 'create art' or carve some spooky symbol into your victim. I think every narcissist with enough self-awareness eventually realizes the foolish nature of their thought pattern. I suppose I'm an elevated narcissist in that I don't see most people's attention worth a damn. I don't go out in my garden and carve symbols into worms to frighten the other worms. In fact, I never really think about worms. That's how far beneath my attention they are. And worms have a higher place in my respect hierarchy than humanity in its current state.
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Re: Wanting Fame/Notoriety

Postby Reaper » Wed May 16, 2018 2:32 pm

In fantasy notoriety is nice - I've fantasized about playing cat and mouse with the FBI (or whatever the Australian version is here), but in reality it's just not worth it because it increases your chance of capture.

I think I would definitely like it though if I was as infamous as Jack The Ripper, but it would kinda suck that I'm the only one who really knows who committed all those murders.
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Re: Wanting Fame/Notoriety

Postby caspin » Wed May 16, 2018 2:51 pm

- If you were a serial killer would you want some kind of infamy or notoriety in the media, like Jack The Ripper or The Zodiac Killer? Why or why not?

No I do not seek attention because I am pretty introverted, I like to observe the human mind. Also animals but I see all animals as friends but I know they arent.

- If you could leave a mark or signature that allows the media to give you a specific name, what kind of mark or signature would you leave? (for example: You carve a smiley face into your victims. The media then dubs you as The Smiley Face Killer)

The mark would be the victim and not anything else.

- Have you ever wanted to be famous for some other reason, maybe as a celebrity, like an actor or well-known artist etc? If yes, what would you want to be famous for and why?

Every person in the world sometimes want to be famous of course but I do not like the attention.

- If you've never wanted fame or notoriety, is it because you wouldn't want the attention that comes with it or some other reason?

I would of course like to be famous but I do not care so much because I will not be famous, there is other options in life.
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Re: Wanting Fame/Notoriety

Postby ZombieZ » Wed May 16, 2018 3:36 pm

Reaper wrote:I came across this article today that I thought would make for a good thread topic:

Many Serial Killers Crave Public Notoriety

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/wicked-deeds/201805/many-serial-killers-crave-public-notoriety

- If you were a serial killer would you want some kind of infamy or notoriety in the media, like Jack The Ripper or The Zodiac Killer? Why or why not?
I don’t really have a desire to be a serial killer, but I prefer to go about my life without having to deal with any attention of that kind.
- If you could leave a mark or signature that allows the media to give you a specific name, what kind of mark or signature would you leave? (for example: You carve a smiley face into your victims. The media then dubs you as The Smiley Face Killer)
..:
- Have you ever wanted to be famous for some other reason, maybe as a celebrity, like an actor or well-known artist etc? If yes, what would you want to be famous for and why?
I always wanted to be a professional athlete, I’ve had fantasies about that.
- If you've never wanted fame or notoriety, is it because you wouldn't want the attention that comes with it or some other reason?
I’m pretty introverted I don’t like being bothered by random people, I think being famous would be a pain in the ass to me. I’d have no problem cashing the checks though 8)
- Any thoughts you'd like to share on the article I linked?
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Re: Wanting Fame/Notoriety

Postby Reaper » Wed May 16, 2018 5:26 pm

The tragic thing about this story - I Just Wanna Be a Serial Killer https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/shadow-boxing/201210/i-just-wanna-be-serial-killer in my opinion, is that although he became the serial killer he wanted to become, he's still a nobody. He didn't really get what he wanted in the end - notoriety.

If I asked a bunch of people who Colin Ireland is, no-one would know. If I asked a bunch of people who Ted Bundy is, almost everyone would know.

No serial killer gets notoriety these days unless you kill around 50 people or more and then you have to get caught. I doubt we'll ever see another Jack The Ripper or Zodiac Killer.
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Re: Wanting Fame/Notoriety

Postby ZombieZ » Wed May 16, 2018 6:23 pm

Reaper wrote:The tragic thing about this story - I Just Wanna Be a Serial Killer https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/shadow-boxing/201210/i-just-wanna-be-serial-killer in my opinion, is that although he became the serial killer he wanted to become, he's still a nobody. He didn't really get what he wanted in the end - notoriety.

If I asked a bunch of people who Colin Ireland is, no-one would know. If I asked a bunch of people who Ted Bundy is, almost everyone would know.

No serial killer gets notoriety these days unless you kill around 50 people or more and then you have to get caught. I doubt we'll ever see another Jack The Ripper or Zodiac Killer.


I think the media is making a effort to keep serial killers and mass shooters names out of the headlines for this exact reason. It still gets out but they aren’t making huge stories about them like they did before.
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