What's the difference between intrusive thoughts and voices?

Jasper wrote:I don't think tolerance or having a certain opinion has anything to do with a mental disorder a person has. I've mental issues, yes, but I'm not defined by them. I still have my own will and my own opinions and a personality. I also think my way of thinking has advantages and disadvantages. I've a higher level of phantasy and creativity, but I suffer and have a low level of energy and have trouble concentrating while reading and that's a big disadvantage. If I could choose, I would rather be healthy.

theendofwords wrote:

Jasper wrote:I don't think tolerance or having a certain opinion has anything to do with a mental disorder a person has. I've mental issues, yes, but I'm not defined by them. I still have my own will and my own opinions and a personality. I also think my way of thinking has advantages and disadvantages. I've a higher level of phantasy and creativity, but I suffer and have a low level of energy and have trouble concentrating while reading and that's a big disadvantage. If I could choose, I would rather be healthy.

mental disorders are all symptoms of a greater suffering of man. schizophrenia, ocd, depression, anxiety, general emotional instability. seen altogether, it's clearly a pandemic that is sweeping man's psyche; the collective unconscious. and i name for you the source. the name of "the devil"/"the deceiver"/"the disease". it is in one way doctrine itself. knowledge. knowledge and doctrine are both another man's ideas, which the naive sheep follow, and even the astute sheep follow. man is divided within. to remove those divisions, to become whole, and to gain authority over what afflicts you and not, is not just a matter of changing opinions or developing tolerances. one must forfeit all "opinion", and all "belief". it is arrogant to say what is good or bad, and it is arrogant to propagate another man's beliefs. the divine teacher is within and speaks without words. it is instinct. it is a lack of strategy. it is to allow yourself to err so that you learn from it. it is to obey the self above all else.
or are you actually content, living in a world where you are not free, but a slave, from childhood, conditioned and hypnotized, maimed, where laws made by other men govern your own body: what goes into it (drug laws which communicate to the mind external ownership/mastership), where you live (given man-made laws and borders), how you dress (laws about clothing; those without shame should not need to be clothed), and the most damaging, how you express yourself (laws about "curses" and "negativity"; "kindness" and "niceness"; these laws make self-conscious, self-controlling, dishonest men). the man accepts laws about his expression does not honor himself.

ask me a question, about your own suffering, and i will point you in the right direction. i have healed men before.

theendofwords wrote:

scrubaus wrote:Are you schizophrenic or suffer from a condition or are you here to spread the "Message" to the mentally ill.

i have suffered hell, and conquered hell. after doing so, the only course of action i can seem to take is to reach down into hell and point my brothers the way out. this is met with more unconscious acceptance than conscious acceptance. the ego does not want to admit its foundations are precarious, am i right? to be free, is to be without foundation whatsoever.

Toucan wrote:Just wondering, does this count as voice hearing? I keep "hearing" this person scream really mean stuff sometimes, but not towards me. Like while I'm walking down the street it screams "f*cking n*gg*rs!" or "you c*nts" and many other slurs. I get really nervous because I think people will hear it and think I screamed it, and assume I'm some crazy racist/sexist/whatever. But it still feels like it's inside my head.
I feel like this "voice" isn't actually a ranting bigot. It feels like it's just screaming those things to try to embarrass me.

CityMouse wrote:

ForcedIsolation wrote:I guess what i mean is i currently suffer from EXTREME intrusive thoughts. But then in my mind they are being spoken to me like a conversation between myself and them.
BUT that other person is also me, it's not as if i'm hearing voices from other people i get the thoughts and conversations from myself and i can't physically hear them there just in my head.

These thoughts believe i should kill myself often and always involve self-hatred and negativity.
Whatever i do i can't get rid of them, they are VERY strong. Not mindfulness, counselling, therapy, cbt, etc. etc. nothing gets rid of them despite how much effort i put in
I have been treated for Depression and Anxiety but nothing has worked, just wondering if i may have another problem?
Does this sound like psychosis to you?

This is basically the same thing I've been experiencing. In fact, that's what I was asking about in the thread "Is This a Part of Schizophrenia?" You might want to read it. The only difference is that my characters don't tell me to kill myself, they just push me around a lot. Mindfulness doesn't work for me either. But talking to myself blocks them out, along with watching TV, reading, and writing, but especially talking to myself. Also I have cut down drastically on alcohol, as that can make it worse. I suggest you take an anti-psychotic like Risperdal or Haldol. And ask your doctor. Hope this helps.