NPD & covert SPD

Revisiting my ancient thread on feelings of superiority.

What exactly is the difference between a so-called covert schizoid with a persisting sense of unconditional superiority and a so-called cerebral narcissist with a preference for restricted social circles?

As a moderately narcissistic Covert Schizoid, I guess it would be that I don't care about how other people are. I hang out occasionally with people who are interesting. Albeit they get very annoying.

While a Cerebral Narcissist specifically chooses people who are good enough to hang out with. Or so I'm assuming.

Well , as a cerebral narcissist I second this,

While a Cerebral Narcissist specifically chooses people who are good enough to hang out with.

I suppose a narcissist feels superior to others yet also has a need for admiration and flattery, whereas a narcissistic schizoid may also feel superior to others yet would not experience this same desire for admiration. In fact, the schizoid may prefer not to receive this admiration at all and may take a "just leave me alone -- I already know I'm better than you" attitude.

I don't know much about narcissism, so I'm just speculating here.

The thing is that some Schizoids can have cerebral narcissism. They pretend to be indifferent to praise, criticism, disagreement, and corrective advice though, deep inside, they are not.

I do not care so much about being praised, but i like it when my actions or art is being praised.
And i have weird appreciation for my art, sometimes i stare at it and admire it. Its not that good, i only like it because i made it. This admiration passes in 1-2 days after i make the picture thought and its not with every picture.

I prefer to be an unnoticeable force, i am not visible, but my actions are.

Half a Person wrote:I suppose a narcissist feels superior to others yet also has a need for admiration and flattery, whereas a narcissistic schizoid may also feel superior to others yet would not experience this same desire for admiration. In fact, the schizoid may prefer not to receive this admiration at all and may take a "just leave me alone -- I already know I'm better than you" attitude.

tazzmissionx wrote:The thing is that some Schizoids can have cerebral narcissism. They pretend to be indifferent to praise, criticism, disagreement, and corrective advice though, deep inside, they are not.

I think these are on base with my ideas on it; the want, or need, for admiration is the difference. The narcissism wants admiration (needs it). The person has to operate in accordance with that need, has to even go as far as being smoke and mirrors. They distort themselves, their image, for the narcissism. True honesty, completely open and bare, is not ever really an option while operating for narcissism--not unless it benefits it. Every word and action is allowed because it is either a benefit or no harm.

There is some overlap with this inability to disclose and other personality disorders. The reasons are important. Histrionics are most definitely another big failure to disclose personality type. I think schizotypal might be another but I'm less sure. Some of the reasoning for stpd would be narcissistic, but some of it would be a need for privacy and solitude (maybe even a result from paranoia sometimes), or a desire to not be "seen" by others. Any personality disorder which has to display a particular image (or lack of image) to others. It is malignant.

I don't see schizoids as having this issue, not at this level.

What does "being superior" mean anyway? I can't seem to grasp it. More capable? Deserving more? Or "the next step of evolution"?

For me , it means more capable , I can't speak for other narcs though.

Ok, then we are more capable in some areas and less capable in others. So to feel superior you have to assume that the areas you are good in are more important. But it's not objectively true. For example for me going into space and exploring the galaxy would be the ultimate goal our cilivization should pursue. But I know that other people may not feel that way. What's the ultimate, the "most important" area? Is there any?