I searched if the word religion was to be found in some other topic, but what i found were mostly offtopics or ancient, so let me start a new one (PS: if my search failed, it's because i can't be arsed to search more).
Ok so, i guess the totality of you do not believe in religions because they are just... ye well, they make no sense at all to me. I would really like to say "most of you", but i can't get to think of a schizoid(described as what wikipedia says) as someone who believes in one of those religion's God: i mean, why should you believe it? Religions are created by man, noone demonstrated the contrary, and as long as it remains a man's word, to me it's as worth as my word and as everyone else's word: you say god created all this, i say that i'm god: who is right? Probably you, probably me, probably none of us, probably there is nothing like that at all. To believe in what another man says, to me, is just trying to grasp a reality where your life has some sense, because you can't think of your life being meaningless and because it's easy to suck up to anything that gives you pleasant or "reasonable" (not at all) answers.
This said, i would like to analyze the religion i was instructed to, and the one i was willing to believe in, putting much effort into understanding it: christian religion.
This God, one day, for some reason, created humans and put them in his garden: there they could fu,ck all day long, eat fruit or just get lazy somewhere, but there was a condition: they hadn't to eat from the apple tree, because it was evil. Those humans did the opposite and supposedly got banished to earth, where they have to experience difficulties and hardships, get over them, die and ascend again to heaven, or go in hell, or middleway through. Nice story, but:
1) Why did god create humans in the first place? Couldn't he stay quiet?
2) Why the hell there was an apple tree in the first place? HE is the one who created humans, so he should have been aware that they were retarded and would have eventually eaten from that tree, after a "provocation", then why so mad after they did so? He could have just removed it and left things as peaceful as they were.
... or was he just bored? If that was the reason, then this religion makes no sense, because it claims that God is a "good" being that preaches altruism, carity and other stupid things, when he was just bored and created all of us out of boredom. If a God really existed, i would think he was seriously bored, because i'd have done the same thing, if i had the power.
But, just to further analyze this "religion", let's claim that this God supposedly created humans because he wanted to make everyone experience life, because he had a low self esteem and wanted to be thanked and prayed to, because he thought it was a good experience: there are many things to be put into question:
1) If your intention was to give everyone the same chances and possibilities, you did it all wrong, because everyone is born in a different environment and is given different choices... naturally this is valid if we take into account that God gives birth to everyone: on the other side, if it's man who gives birth to other men (which is the correct answer, in my opinion), then God would be responsible only of the first man and woman he created(if it still was him who created the first man and woman, and if Darwin never existed), but this would also deny many things that christianity says.
2) You put us in a not permanent scenario: in some billion years, earth is going to get sucked by the sun, and any kind of living form will be burned anyways so, unless you plan to bring your "judgement" day before that date, you have overlooked some particular (naturally, this is valid if we take into account that man won't destroy humankind before that date).
3) What if someone doesn't believe in god? Is he going to be punished? And what would be the reason? Let's bring up some scenarios:
- a guy, like me, who has the "luck" of getting to know of this religion and so can work to be "saved" but refused to do so, because he got his reasons
- a kid, who is born in a land of war, hasn't got any instruction and doesn't know anything beside his animal instincts: how could he ever get to know of god? How is he supposed to believe in him?
- a fetus, that is considered to be alive, yet doesn't have any knowledge or anything at all, in general: if it dies, because of complications for whatever reason you want, is it going to be "punished"?
- an animal: i consider man as an animal who has got the physique and intellectual capacity to develop complicate things, because he was lucky to be born with hands that are able to write and a voice, such as many kind of written and spoken languages, an "organized" society, science and even trivial things like fashion, standards and... religions. Getting back to the point, let's consider any other kind of animal: how is that animal supposed to be "judged" by god? How is it supposed to "show" that he believes in god? Or is it just a decoration?
It just makes no sense at all. It's so much full of non-sense, contradictions and what not, that it makes it impossible for me to believe in christian religion and any other kind of religion (because i find other religions even more retarded; i have to say that there are some like buddism, that focus much on meditation and just look boring, but that i still couldn't believe in because still man-made and looking too much convenient)
What do i think? As i stated somewhere else, for me any kind of scenario is possible: it could be that i am god(defined as an eternal being with holy powers) and out of boredom i created all of you and, still out of boredom, i wanted to be born as a human to enjoy the trip. It could be possible that i'm just a pawn of this other being called god, who is bored, created all of us, and is toying with us. It could also be that there is no god at all, and imagine that there once was one singular piece of matter/energy that one day shattered in many pieces of matter/energy, that eventually went through chemical reactions and what not, leading to the creation of life and, coincidentially, of us, and it could just be that our capacity to think, feel etc is just a consequence of electrical impulses of our brain or something else related to that (and therefore just the result of matter/energy combinations). According to this last vision, you could ask "why did it shatter?", and the answer could simply be that there is no real reason... why shouldn't it shatter at all? Whether it would have shattered or not, nothing was created, nothing was destroyed: the balance is still there.
I like this kind of topics, so i was interested in your views regarding this, in case you believed in some religion. If you didn't, like me, for my same reasons or for other reasons(in which i would be interested aswell), i would like to know of your "scenarios", so that i could get to learn something new.