IceBlock wrote:I don't understand -> I fear -> I hate -> I destroy
anrothar wrote:What are you defining as discrimination? People can't help their personalities any more than they can help their skin color. We all discriminate on the basis of personality. Most of us discriminate on the basis of looks as well.
Why do I have to "feel" anything toward them?IceBlock wrote:What are your thoughts on discrimination? Your "feelings" toward people of different races, religions, sexual orientations? Does it bother you when someone is discriminated?
Are semites (which, by the way, includes Jews and Arabs) a race (or are they an ethnicity)? In the early days of anthropology, science came up with three "races": caucasoid (whites and, interestingly, people from the Indian subcontinent), mongoloid (Asians and Native Americans) and negroid (blacks) based on certain physiological features (not just skin color). There was a time when people used "race" the way we use "nationality" today (e.g. the French race). I'm of the opinion that there's only one "race," the human race.For me the idea of racism was so absurd that for 14 years of my life I was sure that it didn't exist anymore. That it was a "dark age" thing, a long, long time ago. It was quite a shock for me when I met an antisemite for the first time and I realised the truth.
I think the term "homophobe" is inappropriate. Its etymology suggests fear (the "phobes" part of the word, from phobia) of either things that are the same (the meaning of the Greek word homo) or of humankind (based on the use of homo in scientific terms like homo sapien). The people who are described by this inappropriate term don't (except maybe in very rare cases) have a phobia of homosexuals. They might genuinely believe that homosexual attraction is not normative for the human species or that it is not "normal" or that it is "unnatural" (meaning what is not normative for the species, not meaning that it doesn't occur in nature; some people wrongly use "natural" to simply mean that something exists or occurs in nature), but that doesn't mean they have a phobia of homosexuals. Some people have a visceral biological reaction to homosexuality because their minds and bodies tell them that something just isn't right about two males attempting to mate with each other or two females attempting to mate with each other (but the reaction tends to be more of a male thing). There are others who, based on their religion's teachings, believe that homosexual attraction is contrary to God's created design for male and female and that to act on one's homosexual attraction is sin. But none of this in any way whatsoever is indicative of people having a phobia of homosexuals.I can't understand homophobes either.
How far are you willing to go with that argument? Siblings? Other incestuous relationships? Adults and teens? I think a lot of it comes down to people's concepts of morality. At the very least, I'd say that it's none of the government's business what relationships consenting adults enter into and that the government has no business giving sanction to certain relationships by giving benefits, privileges, recognitions, etc.The idea of caring about who is your neighbour sleeping with is even more absurd to me. You'd think that people should be happy if someone is in love, since it considered to be the best/most valuable emotion.
Why do you automatically assume that it's hatred?I just can't think of any reason for such a pure hatred.
Why do you assume there's a feeling of superiority? Racism includes within it a preference for one's own race and need not include a negative reaction toward other races.Do you think some people need to feel (feel?) superior to others?
Humans have a very long history of negatively reacting to people who are different, who are seen as "other." The bear clan wars with the eagle clan even though both clans are of the same tribe. The Donnachie clan wars with the Campbell clan even though they're both Scots. People of lighter skin look down on people with darker skin, even though they're just shades of the same color (this is something I saw particularly in Asia). On and on it has gone for millennia. It's almost instinctive.Or is it just like this:
I don't understand -> I fear -> I hate -> I destroy
I think it's even more basic than that. "Discrimination" also means the act of distinguishing between one thing and another. And that's really what it comes down to: seeing someone as something "other," something different.IceBlock wrote:anrothar wrote:What are you defining as discrimination? People can't help their personalities any more than they can help their skin color. We all discriminate on the basis of personality. Most of us discriminate on the basis of looks as well.
"Discrimination is the prejudicial treatment of an individual based on their membership in a certain group or category."
Because they believe that marriage is exclusively between male and female. I don't understand why it's any of the government's business what relationships consenting adults enter into. I don't understand why people so stupidly think they need some government to validate their relationships (not that I get the whole relationship thing, but that's just part of my SPD).For me the most important aspects are :
- law - I don't understand why people are against homosexual marriages
Is it necessarily hatred? Could it not be simply dislike? Could it not even just be a strong preference for one's own kind?- hatred - I don't understand how can anyone hate someone just because they are Jewish/Muslim/etc.
Pride may be part of it. Part of it may be left over from the days when having a preference for one's own tribe or clan was necessary for the survival of that tribe or clan as it battled other tribes or clans for food and other resources.- superiority - I don't understand why people feel superior to others just because they are of different race/nationality
I disagree. I don't have to personally know perky, bubbly airheads to dislike them. I don't have to know Joel Osteen to find his big grin and the sound of his voice slimy and disgusting.Personality is a different thing - you have to actually know a person to dislike them for their personality, so prejudice is not valid here.
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