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Postby whatever-sp » Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:54 pm

So I always considered myself a misanthrope. But after actually looking into it, I guess the correct term is schizoid. In my case covert.

Did other people here consider themselves misanthropes? I'm not too sure which term would have less negative connotations.
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Re: Misanthrope.

Postby kenderes » Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:29 am

It is difficult to decide which term carries more stigma: 'schizoid' is a disorder instead of the personal choice, 'misanthrope' means you actively detest and hate people.

I don't consider myself a misanthrope, because I don't really hate everyone. I just have realistic expectations of those I interact with. Some people correspond more with my ideals of interpersonal behavior, some correspond less. We are all flawed, anyway.
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Re: Misanthrope.

Postby Carazombi » Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:26 pm

“Do you hate people?

I don't hate them...I just feel better when they're not around.”
― Charles Bukowski
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Re: Misanthrope.

Postby Zeropathic » Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:43 pm

Carazombi wrote:“Do you hate people?

I don't hate them...I just feel better when they're not around.”
― Charles Bukowski


This, pretty much. I prefer observing the world from the "outside" rather than actively taking part in it.

I think there's a difference between being a misanthrope and being schizoid. The two are not mutually exclusive, though.
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Re: Misanthrope.

Postby Platypus » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:40 am

whatever-sp wrote:Did other people here consider themselves misanthropes?

Yes, but I don't use that term because of the negative connotations. I think it specifically refers to a dislike/hatred of mankind, but is sometimes interpreted as hating people at an individual level, or as being sociopathic. I dislike people as a collective group/society/species, but I like persons (i.e. people as individuals). The things I dislike about people are not something that I can blame upon any one person. I feel we are all complicit, and thus my dislike of the human race extends to myself.

I think you can be a misanthrope and still be kind and caring. Kurt Vonnegut's books express misanthropic views, but then one of his often quoted lines is: "There's only one rule that I know of, babies -- 'God damn it, you've got to be kind.'"

I related to most of what Ayn Rand wrote about "man haters". I don't know if that term is better or worse than misanthrope. Perhaps worse considering how divisive Ayn Rand seems to be! :mrgreen:
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Re: Misanthrope.

Postby Black Widow » Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:15 am

Platypus wrote:I related to most of what Ayn Rand wrote about "man haters". I don't know if that term is better or worse than misanthrope. Perhaps worse considering how divisive Ayn Rand seems to be! :mrgreen:


I heard that people that refused to have intercourse with her were accused of not being "objective." :|
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Re: Misanthrope.

Postby Platypus » Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:37 am

Tungsten wrote:I heard that people that refused to have intercourse with her were accused of not being "objective." :|

:lol: If this wasn't a mental health support site, here's where I would attempt a joke about Ayn Rand and rape.
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Re: Misanthrope.

Postby vertices » Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:18 am

Off and on. When I think about it enough, I begin to hate humanity and I hate myself with it. I think I just hate this stupid existence and all we are for being trapped in it. I hate mortality and transience, which are epitomized by humans and life in general.
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Re: Misanthrope.

Postby cking » Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:41 am

Hmm, it depends how much I'm exposed to other people, especially emotional, pushy, or ignorant people. I think a lot of things in life are crowded out by very vocal people with very firm opinions not grounded on reason or based in reality. Most of the circles I keep too thankfully don't have these types of people, and I realise I'm not infuriated with them like I am the people who swarm to media circuses or spew their ignorant opinions on crowded forums.

I think any form of isolation will bring a critical outlook with it. Whether that develops into misanthropy or not is more a function of the individual's personality.
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Re: Misanthrope.

Postby Platypus » Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:47 am

cking wrote:I think any form of isolation will bring a critical outlook with it. Whether that develops into misanthropy or not is more a function of the individual's personality.

But does isolation necessarily cause the misanthropy?
Could it not also be the other way around, and that misanthropy provides a motivation for isolation? :wink:
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