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Postby Janie » Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:43 am

Do most schizoids finish college and get professional jobs? What kind of jobs? What is a good job for SPD?
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Postby darknightseeker » Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:12 am

Personally on my 13th school year ( highschool/college ) and it's going bad. I really have no motivation to work at all... What happens after I have no idea, but I will probably try to start my own company and run online business. Would be interesting to know what others did or will do... :) Besides school I work as a postman in weekends ( Saturdays ) and I think that's a pretty good job.
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Postby Steppenwolf » Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:44 am

In case a schizoid has the intellectual abilities and occasional motivation, staying in academia for the rest of the life sounds like a great idea to me. It's what I'm trying, although I can already picture myself as Dr. Hobo.
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Postby Septimus » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:52 pm

I am not going to say what job I do as I detect a certain amount of job-related prejudice on this forum.

It is a job though where I have the potential to earn a lot of money. If I didn't have the schizoid condition, at my level of experience I could be earning per annum well over £100,000 / 145,000 euros / $200,000. As it is I don't earn anywhere near that and I don't have the will to push myself to earn any more at the moment. It would also mean I have to interact with people more and suck up and be pushy and I just cannot do that.

I went to a well known independent school and a well known university. At university I switched courses after a year and got a degree in something else. I then went to a specialist school for two years to obtain the equivalent of the degree in the subject I work in now. I then had to train for two years to qualify into my job at one level. I then had to go to university in a foreign country and language and take further exams to qualify at a different level.

When I look back on it I am amazed by the motivation I must have had, which I certainly don't think I have now. However, I had a goal right from the start which was to end up living in the place I am living in now, and the best chance to do that (as I wasn't born here) was to do what I have done. I suppose each stage was like a challenge which is what kept me going at the pain of failing and ending up with nowhere to live or living somewhere where I didn't want to live.

Apart from work, which I find boring anyway, I do nothing with my life and it all just seems pointless.
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Postby mikebw » Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:50 pm

Janie wrote:Do most schizoids finish college and get professional jobs? What kind of jobs? What is a good job for SPD?


I repeated 1st grade, and I repeated 9th grade. I dropped out of 11th grade and got my GED that same year at the age of 18. I work as a custodian at the community college. As a college employee I can take free classes. I've been wanting to take some courses in electronics, namely copier repair, but the college doesn't offer that here, so I was thinking of taking computer repair. I was also thinking of taking mechanics and getting some skills like electrical, carpentry, etc. But I'm just not motivated enough I guess.

So all I have are my highschool equivalent and my job as custodian.

I am not going to say what job I do as I detect a certain amount of job-related prejudice on this forum.


I detect paranoia :?: Maybe it's well founded but I haven't detected any snobbery, jealousy, or prejudice based on level of success or failure.
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Postby broadwind » Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:53 pm

Ive have had SPD since i was a child (im 31 now), and managed to graduate college, and have a good well paying job writing software.

It was very stressful during college due to the social interaction required in lectures/group assigments etc but was possible. Study was easy though because it is a solitary exercise. I would hide in the college library for hours not interacting, just reading textbooks etc..

If you are thinking of jobs for your friend's son i would recommend a computer software job, especially if he spends all day in the basement on the computer he sounds like he can at least tolerate them, and maybe has an interest in how they work.

I spent several years (02-05) entirely working on my own in my home office for a company and i would just submit my software over the internet. It worked well as the social interaction was minimized.

It is possible to find jobs like this in computing, especially as there is alway a shortage of people in this field.

My job now is requires considerably more socialbility but i found taking an SSRI called Paroxitine massively helped my toleration of being around people and lets me hold down a more higher level development job.
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Postby astreal » Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:56 pm

Steppenwolf wrote:In case a schizoid has the intellectual abilities and occasional motivation, staying in academia for the rest of the life sounds like a great idea to me. It's what I'm trying, although I can already picture myself as Dr. Hobo.


i couldn't really imagine doing anything else. i've struggled a lot with the motivation required to earn the advanced degrees one needs though. i quit for a year during my m.a. studies and it's taken me eight years to finally be close to finishing my ph.d.

the rewards are many and have kept me going. no boss, i mostly set my own schedule, i can work a lot at home. i have colleagues i say "hi" to in the hallway, not coworkers i'm expected to work with and probably socialize with too. the teaching isn't too difficult once you get the hang of it. it's a lot more like acting or performing than socializing. and i'm in the classroom for less than eight hours a week.

it's hard work and it's not for everyone, but it's not a bad way for a schizoid to make a living compared to most other jobs out there.
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Postby Sabratha » Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:59 pm

astreal wrote:
Steppenwolf wrote:In case a schizoid has the intellectual abilities and occasional motivation, staying in academia for the rest of the life sounds like a great idea to me. It's what I'm trying, although I can already picture myself as Dr. Hobo.


i couldn't really imagine doing anything else. i've struggled a lot with the motivation required to earn the advanced degrees one needs though. i quit for a year during my m.a. studies and it's taken me eight years to finally be close to finishing my ph.d.

the rewards are many and have kept me going. no boss, i mostly set my own schedule, i can work a lot at home. i have colleagues i say "hi" to in the hallway, not coworkers i'm expected to work with and probably socialize with too. the teaching isn't too difficult once you get the hang of it. it's a lot more like acting or performing than socializing. and i'm in the classroom for less than eight hours a week.

it's hard work and it's not for everyone, but it's not a bad way for a schizoid to make a living compared to most other jobs out there.


That's what I'm planning to do, stay in the University and become a doctor, maybe a prof later on. The pay is horrible, but then again I don't have that much financial needs. It will require socializing during courses or lectures, but actually it seems that its a much smaller problem for me than for other schizoids here. Maybe its because I don't expirience stress.
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Postby insomniakat » Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:31 pm

I've thought about getting a PHD, but I simply do not have the motivation to go through with it, nor the finances. I also am not sure what I would choose to study.
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Postby astreal » Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:05 pm

forgot another perk to academic life: summers amount to a three month vacation.

Sabratha wrote:It will require socializing during courses or lectures, but actually it seems that its a much smaller problem for me than for other schizoids here. Maybe its because I don't expirience stress.


honestly, it doesn't feel very much like socializing. teaching is very scripted and focused on intelligent, usually interesting subject matter. it does wear me out a bit after awhile, but i find chatting with a student during office hours for 15 minutes can be more draining than giving a 75 minute lecture. thankfully the students don't come by too often.

insomniakat wrote:I've thought about getting a PHD, but I simply do not have the motivation to go through with it, nor the finances.


for me the motivation has always been the alternative. i need to be independent. i lived at home for a few months after i took my break from grad school and i was absolutely miserable. i could also never cope with a 9 to 5 routine, and i really prefer to do what i want to do, not what some boss tells me to do. i've financed it with meager t.a. pay and student loans, so i'm in a bit of debt. but it is possible to do.

it might be interesting to brainstorm about different jobs that are more "schizoid friendly" and see what we come up with.

so far people have listed:

*software engineering

*custodial work

*academia

i have friends/family members (non-schizoids) who:

*edit manuscripts and government reports

*support themselves through online retailing

i'd also imagine that being a night watch-person or doing third-shift retail stock might be more tolerable for schizoids.
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