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Re: I am a pansexual zoophile

Postby minotauros » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:25 am

Pathos wrote:I don't think it's actually a choice, any more than any other paraphilia. :p Just like you said, no one would choose that. A mix of genetics/socializing, I guess, who knows. I'm still confused about simpler things like nightmares. (Why does the brain do that to itself ?_?)

I agree its not a choice. And that's a good question. Especially my brain, not to run off with you on a tangent, but I get horrible nightmares. It's like my brain wants me to keep reliving my painful past in my sleep. I've been told by my roommates that I wake up in sheer terror, and they refuse to ever wake me up because:

- 1 calling my name won't do crap.

- 2 shaking me will likely result in being assaulted until I'm coherent enough to break free from the "fight or flight" instinct.

I always feel bad after. But my brain does it I've been told to me once a week at least.
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Re: I am a pansexual zoophile

Postby SirZane » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:31 am

Dearest OP

You are not alone. There are hundreds of thousands if not millions of people in this world that ate just like you. In the US alone. It is estimated that between 2-3% of the nation accounted population are Zoosexuals. Considering the fact that homosexuality is at about 5% give or take of the US population. Zoos are doing rather well. Zoophilia has been around a long time. Long before the abrahamic religions that most of the world's civilization is based off of. The earliest root of Zoophilia can be traced back to Pagan worships of Mother Nature. Who in semblance of Moon Worship, had temples where it was believed that they would lead an alpha wolf to mate with a young virgin girl. Representing a tie between man and nature itself. This has later been speculated to just a story and not actually having happened, pagans were worshippers of nature spirits and Druids, a deviant path from paganism, worshipped a spirit wolf. (This is also speculated to be where we get the modern term "Harvest Moon" as the spirit wolf was based around agriculture)

Zoophilia was later picked up by the Greeks and Romans as fuel for mythlore. With the rise of the Roman Catholic Church came indoctrination of other religions via and extensive smear campaign and fear.

With the rise of the abrahamic religions. Zoosexuals were forced into hiding for the punishment for such an atrocity against an unprovable god was death

This lasted long throughout the Middle Ages and through the age of sail. Zoosexuals were not seen but they were around. For a short time in Germany, pre and post WWI, zoophilia was legal and safety monitored. It feel out of practice with the rise of the Nazi regime.

With the introduction of the Internet. Zoos were able to communicate and I'm pretty sure you know the story from there.

Now that the bell has rung to end history class. Lets get on to your questions

is this normal?
By the very definition of normal. No. As normality is to fall align with the majority. But! Normality is not something to be sought after. For you are unique.

[b]is this wrong?[\b]
Honestly this all depends on who you ask. Zoophilia is a taboo long enriched into the minds of man. But yells to this. Zoophilia of any kind is legal in nearly half of the United States and states with laws against it were put in place due to an incident of some kind. One state passed laws against zoophilia because a guy were killed when he were anally penetrated by a horse causing his intestines to tear.

But from a moral standpoint. You did nothing wrong.

Lastly. Canines are more ample to show sexual attraction towards humans. This is believed to be because of centuries of domestication where we bred dogs to enjoy the presence of humans and love us. So maybe it is only natural that dogs should see us as potential mates.

Sincerely
-Sir Zane
A fellow Zoo

PS 3/4 of all zoo sexual relationship are initiated by the animal
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Re: I am a pansexual zoophile

Postby HesDeltanCaptain » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:40 am

Non-human animals aren't labored with our "Eww that's gross." mindset. They do whatever they feel like doing, when they feel like doing it. Most animals are more than capable of protesting if we do something they don't wanna do like sexual behaviours. If they were against it they could bite us or what ever. So it isn't wrong. Unless you're a practicing member of just about every religion on this planet. :) Other than that though you're fine. Objectively, if you both have a good time who's to say it's wrong?

I've heard the dolphin fantasy before. Can't say I understand it though. I get dogs n horses. :) Still, dolphins and bonobo chimpanzees are the 2nd and 3rd most highly sexed animals on Earth after people. So guess there's some sense to it.

When we feel guilt over sexual things we're letting the opinions of others determine our own sense of right and wrong. That's a dumb way to go since often enough, when others have these judgemental views it's part of a greater judgemental mindset where everyone who doesn't agree with them is bad.

Animals are a great sounding board for right and wrong. If the animal doesn't try to kill you, it's not wrong. :)
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Re: I am a pansexual zoophile

Postby ClunkyMunk » Sat May 23, 2015 8:17 pm

I just wanted to reply and say, "hey!"

Admittedly, I haven't had time to read every post, but I find what I've read to be incredibly encouraging, and I'm glad you reached out to a place that understands what it's like to have a paraphilia.

As a zoophile, I've come to find that as I've opened up with others, more and more people have come forth with zoo stories that they otherwise wouldn't have shared, confessed interests they've been ashamed of, and otherwise confided in friendship something they've held onto for a long time and have never been able to express. There are a lot of zoophiles out there, and you wouldn't ever know it because everyone's afraid to say anything. That kindred is infinitely important, knowing that you're not alone, that you're not a terrible person, that you won't be immediately shunned by everyone around you for something you can't control.

Fifty to sixty years ago, it wasn't normal to be gay. The definition of normalcy changes with each generation. Maybe if we're lucky, zoophilia will go the way of homosexuality in our culture. Time will tell. Right now, there seems to be a push from anonymous on both sides of the issue, with the anti-zoo side being rather vicious. Reading their posts, though, is like reading posts from Westboro Baptist Church about gay people; it's all hate speech with no logic. Needless to say, it's still dangerous to be completely open about being attracted to animals, let alone having sexual contact with them.

As for whether or not it's wrong, I'd argue that it's not, in general. People like to give the argument of consent and leave it at that, as if animals not being able to speak is the end of the argument. Animals can consent to sex; you've noticed it yourself.
The real fatal flaw to that argument, though, is that we don't ask for their consent in any other part of their lives. We don't ask mothers if we can sell their puppies. We don't ask if they want to be put in a crate while we're away. We don't ask whether or not they want horseshoes on their feet or saddles on their backs or bits in their teeth. We don't seek consent from animals for anything in our society, but when it comes to sex, suddenly the fact that they can't speak is an issue?

There is a moral ambiguity, but I'd suggest the squick factor is the real issue our society has with it. Sex has so many taboos in our society, not the least of which is the separation of man from beast.

Anyway, to answer some other people's questions I read, different animals have smells, tastes, and physical appeals that are sexually arousing. I've always been attracted to musks; I like the way people and animals smell. I also find non-human penises really interesting and attractive. Everything about them. It's kind of hard to get into without being pornographic, though :3

Thanks for posting and opening up. I'm always interested in meeting new zoos and talking about stuff :3 That support network is really important. Don't hesitate to reach out!
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Re: I am a pansexual zoophile

Postby ElKahn » Mon May 25, 2015 1:08 pm

I watched some bestiality videos (women and male dogs or male horses).
I thought the animals enjoyed it. I'm not into it at all but I don't see how animals get hurt in these cases. Plus, if the human involved enjoys it and the animal enjoys it too, I see nothing wrong with it.
And in your case it seems like the dog enjoyed it.
Consent? If you're masturbating and an animal comes to lick you or hump you, it's pretty clear that consent is there. It didnt seem like you forced him.

Is it normal? No, in the sense that the vast majority of people are not zoophiles. But abnormal has no negative connotations here.

Is it wrong? I don't think love and sex are inherently wrong. To me all kinds of love are right, but sex....it all depends on consent. If you force an animal into having sex with you, then it's wrong because it hurts them. But if the animal shows the desire to have sex with you then I don't see how it could be wrong. Animals have the ability to express themselves too. It seems like the dog expressed his desire, in your case. Also, animals don't see sex the same way we do. To them it's more like instincts. The dog didn't care you're human and he's a dog, if you get what I mean.

I know that dolphins are very sexual animals and humans have been groped by them many times.

I would be worried about diseases though, and the law. I would suggest to refrain from doing something illegal since bestiality is illegal in most places.

I think you shouldn't feel guilty or depressed. Every kind of love is right. Love is just love no matter who you love or what you love. Love is never a bad thing.
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Re: I am a pansexual zoophile

Postby LH00 » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:00 pm

I know it was a long time ago that this question was asked. I find it really interesting because in a way I'm in the same situation. I do not feel quilty or ashamed I think you should do the same. I wish you all the best.
Thi topic needs a longer conversation... so anyway
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Re: I am a pansexual zoophile

Postby Papergirl » Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:19 pm

You're not harming the animals. You can still hold down a job and have a happy life. It isn't affecting your ability to relate to others. So no ... it's not wrong. People have sex with animals all the time on farms to collect semen. I knew a man who had a Thoroughbred horse, and he sold the semen all over the world. Do you know how Thoroughbred owners collect the semen? They jerk the horse off. He didn't feel comfortable doing it ... so his daughter did it. She didn't seem to mind the "process". She would squeeze a tube of KY in her hands, and slowly run both hands up and down the penis until the horse ejaculated (which was done in a sack very similar to a condom. I know one thing - every time I jerk off a human penis ... it's SEX.

So I would say ... have fun with it.
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Re: I am a pansexual zoophile

Postby advisemerp » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:48 pm

My only concern would be that the animal cannot consent. You seem deep into this lifestyle, like you want a full relationship with the animal, is that right?
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Re: I am a pansexual zoophile

Postby ClunkyMunk » Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:58 pm

Coming back to this thread is like breathing a fresh breath of air. I've been dealing with a lot of anti-zoo sentiment lately online, usually very under-informed, with a lot of the same misconceptions about zoos we've been lead to believe (animals as a surrogate for human affection is one that keeps coming up for some reason).

Anyway, I guess I should reiterate that the sort of understanding you find in a place like this is unique, special, and so very, very important. Simply knowing you're not alone does wonders for the psyche. :3

I hope you're doing well!
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Re: I am a pansexual zoophile

Postby Endymion » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:07 pm

I'm not keen on hijacking threads, but the following quote brought something to mind and I felt it was more of an aside for this thread than something for a separate thread (unless it generates more than passing attention).

ElKahn wrote:if the human involved enjoys it and the animal enjoys it too, I see nothing wrong with it. [...] Consent? If you're masturbating and an animal comes to lick you or hump you, it's pretty clear that consent is there. It didnt seem like you forced him. [...] it all depends on consent. If you force an animal into having sex with you, then it's wrong because it hurts them. But if the animal shows the desire to have sex with you then I don't see how it could be wrong.


What if the animal is a feral human child, one that has passed the 'critical period' for language acquisition? What if that feral child showed no inhibition and sought sexual activity with you? Obviously there are legal implications, but let's say (because it's all hypothetical) you're on an island where no law applies, and this 'animal', the feral child, goes for you in a sexual way.
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