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Re: paedophilia on this forum

Postby Musicman » Sun May 05, 2013 5:30 am

fiftysix wrote:I'm not open to dialogue with you beyond what've i've said already. I just wanted to make a protest. This is all i've got to say.


If you refuse to engage in dialog beyond this point, that is because you've made weak claims that you simply cannot support. As soon as your claims are subject to scrutiny, you refuse to give any consideration. Simply put, you are unable to comprehend that you may sometimes be wrong.

No one can make you talk, but if you start threads like these, you should expect this type of reaction. You better have a damn good argument because I guarantee you that those of us in this forum have thought about it all a hell of a lot harder and longer than you.
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Re: paedophilia on this forum

Postby Simontheo » Sun May 05, 2013 5:32 pm

Wow Musicman! You have made some good points. I agree with you, we truly have thought a lot about this subject. And suffered a lot too!
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Re: paedophilia on this forum

Postby Lyta » Mon May 06, 2013 2:44 pm

fiftysix wrote:I'm not open to dialogue with you beyond what've i've said already. I just wanted to make a protest. This is all i've got to say.


If you are not open to dialogue, then why are you here?!

This isn't the venting forum.

Seriously, there's a lot of people who know full well that what they desire isn't right. You don't really need to add stones to their burden.
Rather, I think they should be encouraged to not condemn themselves, but rather try to see how they can turn their weakness / wrong to something positive.

If life gives you lemons, make some lemonade.
And if pedos can be open, then they can also ask for help in maintaining borders and conduct themselves appropriately.
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Re: paedophilia on this forum

Postby Partridge » Mon May 06, 2013 3:51 pm

Some (many?) people give the expression of animosity priority over common-sense approaches to preventing child abuse. What that reveals is that they're not motivated by reducing offending at all, but instead by the opportunity to attack with impunity a culturally prescribed target. One only has to sift through history to find that the venom and the lynching are always the same, but the target varies: religious groups, heretics/infidels, ethnic groups, communists, homosexuals, 'terrorists', paedophiles (with the hysteria of the past couple of decades often dilating the definition of the latter to encompass anyone attracted to those under the age of consent). At the risk of an ad hominem, the shrewd will be able to see such animosity in context, whereas people like fiftysix are just part of the uncritical herd. Unfortunately the absence of critical thinking (whether this stems from an inability to think critically or an unwillingness to do so) leads to situations in which abuse is more likely to happen.
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Re: paedophilia on this forum

Postby fiftysix » Mon May 06, 2013 4:52 pm

If you are not open to dialogue, then why are you here?!


IT wasn't my decision to post this thread in this forum but i did want to let the posters condoning looking at pictures of kids know that I don't approve, that society doesn't approve. And I wanted you to know that I am sharing my disapproval with the forum moderators.

It wasn't only posting about the acceptability of looking at kids pictures that got my goat though. There were other disturbing posts out there that the mods seemed not to have noticed. At that point, i didn't know about reporting posts using the button and its too much trouble to go looking for a moderator.

I've achieved some of what i wanted to achieve by expressing myself.

As to the other recent posts, they are all serving, rationalising, that's why i am not bothered to respond.

I would also let you know that i don't come into the forum browsing through the threads. I can't help but notice threads that go into this forum by using the general direction buttons "unanswered posts" for example. I would prefer to be oblivious to the paedophile forum, the anti-social forum and the sexual abuse forums. I find they are all pretty disturbing in different ways but one can't help but see them and sometimes you can't ignore them. Or at least they are not easy to ignore.
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Re: paedophilia on this forum

Postby Partridge » Mon May 06, 2013 6:50 pm

fiftysix wrote:As to the other recent posts, they are all serving, rationalising, that's why i am not bothered to respond.


Rationality = good. Rejection of reason = bad.

fiftysix wrote:but one can't help but see them and sometimes you can't ignore them. Or at least they are not easy to ignore.


Yes they are. You just ignore them.
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Re: paedophilia on this forum

Postby Musicman » Mon May 06, 2013 8:45 pm

fiftysix wrote:As to the other recent posts, they are all serving, rationalising, that's why i am not bothered to respond.


You are not bothering to respond because you have few if any valid ways to counter our arguments.

I think many of us here would like to have a civil discussion about pedophilia and how it should be dealt with in society, but for some odd reason, one side, in particular, is completely unwilling to do so. I'm afraid you fall into that category. You're willing to go on a rant about those of us who frequent these forums (which by the way, we're all here for help; not to be judged, and I assume you are, too), but you're unwilling to even consider anything we have to say. Instead, you want to lash out at a group of people who you not only know nothing about, but refuse to learn anything about.
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Re: paedophilia on this forum

Postby Lyta » Mon May 06, 2013 8:50 pm

fiftysix wrote:IT wasn't my decision to post this thread in this forum but i did want to let the posters condoning looking at pictures of kids know that I don't approve, that society doesn't approve.


Your personal condemnation - especially when it is about fully clothed children - is hardly relevant, anymore than a porn-opponents views are worthy of consideration.

Stop being stuck-up.

fiftysix wrote:And I wanted you to know that I am sharing my disapproval with the forum moderators.


I am disapproving of your disapproval. Silly.

fiftysix wrote:I find they are all pretty disturbing in different ways but one can't help but see them and sometimes you can't ignore them. Or at least they are not easy to ignore.


You know, you don't HAVE to come here and read posts.
Especially if you aren't prepared to listen and interact and have something constructive to say.
Just registering your disapproval is... rather pointless.
I would very much have wanted a whole heap of things to be different.
But they are not.
And so, does it help in any way, shape, or form, to blame myself for who and what I am? Nope.
And as such, I have no use for your condemnation either.
Have something meaningfull to say or post somewhere else.
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Re: paedophilia on this forum

Postby Simontheo » Mon May 06, 2013 10:38 pm

fiftysix wrote:
If you are not open to dialogue, then why are you here?!


IT wasn't my decision to post this thread in this forum but i did want to let the posters condoning looking at pictures of kids know that I don't approve, that society doesn't approve. And I wanted you to know that I am sharing my disapproval with the forum moderators.

It wasn't only posting about the acceptability of looking at kids pictures that got my goat though. There were other disturbing posts out there that the mods seemed not to have noticed. At that point, i didn't know about reporting posts using the button and its too much trouble to go looking for a moderator.



I understand your concerns, you worry for the safety of children. So do pedophiles, we care a lot about children, it's not just sex. Now what I don't comprehend is how this thread wasn't your decision? Sure our decisions are influenced by what's going around us, but the final decision is ours. You chose to open up a thread with your concerns, and you chose to bash on pedophiles without having much knowledge of us. Some threads have to be reported because some people do go overboard, but that doesn't give you reason to be some what mean. I was hoping to read opinions from people who aren't pedophiles, opinions with valid argument, without going into an ignorant rant or just being plain mean. I do hope you open your mind more and I wish you the best!
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Re: paedophilia on this forum

Postby HowardCL » Tue May 07, 2013 12:54 am

Even though I crossed the line with children I still care very much about children and do not want to see children being hurt by men like me that lost control in the past and crossed the line. I know its strange to hear a child sex offender saying something like that but its true. I avoid looking at pictures of any kind of children because that is what pushed me to act upon my desires with children. I just want them to be left alone because I see what it has done to those children, we are not evil monsters just because we like children in a sexual way, we just need to learn how to control it and make it a positive outcome rather than a negative one.
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