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Postby Stunner6 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:25 pm

Now 52 but going back to when she had small children we ( my wife and I ) were always taking her and her middle child to a doctors , a hospital for different ailments. Wind the clock on and as an adult she has had a mild stroke, a suspected brain tumour various other ailments supposedly requiring hospital attention. We do not see her regularly as we live some distance and her parents live abroad but relay to my wife weekly the telephone calls they have received from her describing the latest medical procedure. The latest is suspected MND which has progressed from neck pain and she is now under a specialist who is unable to confirm her diagnosis until September. However a freak accident meant a letter destined for her specialist was sent to her physiotherapist who was able (luckily?) to confirm that based on the results she read the specialist would definitely confirm MND when she next sees him.
I have suspected Munchausen by proxy with the child and have tried to explain to my wife how I believe her sister is manipulating her and the family. There have been many other "incidents" with this individual. Please some feedback to set me straight...
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Re: Sister in law suffering Munchausen Syndrome ?

Postby Terry E. » Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:36 am

Huge call but I am inclined to agree on the Muncher diagnosis. The MBP is harder as it means calling someone a criminal which I am hesitant to do without way more facts than I think you have. Could it have been MBP ??? Yeah possible.

She certainly sounds like a Muncher.

Munchers rely very heavily on the belief that normal people are normal. You almost need someone outside the box to make the call.They are incredibly manipulative.

The only question I need to ask is how high on the narcissism scale would you rate her ???

In her life has she ever done much to others?

Is she always the either the centre of attention or very angry and accusing others of bad behaviour if she is not.

and you know the saying .. "Munchers ... can't live with em ...."
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Re: Sister in law suffering Munchausen Syndrome ?

Postby Stunner6 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:50 am

There are more facts on the MBP but with the time that has elapsed it is now her behaviour that draws me to this conclusion.
A lot has happened to her , far more than appears 'normal'. House fires , car crashes , job issues , ex partners trying to kill her and the children. The medical thing is the big draw as it keeps the family emotionally attached. My wife who is an extremely bright individual listens to her mother recount the facts and even though I ask her to look at the detail carefully is a complete believer of her sister. It may well be that there are some issues we are all getting older but it is always the contrived nature of the detail. "The physiotherapist read the letter" etc. Can anyone have had a suspected stroke, heart attack but had no apparent long term hospital stays. The latest Motor Neurone Disease diagnosis is a real puzzler. Having looked at other MS cases I can find no other mention of MND. Symptoms poor grip , trouble walking distances and more. As far as I can research MND is a terminal illness but any attempt by my wife's mother to visit are put off vehemently. Has anyone else encountered anything similar?
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Re: Sister in law suffering Munchausen Syndrome ?

Postby Terry E. » Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:22 am

Stunner6 wrote:There are more facts on the MBP but with the time that has elapsed it is now her behaviour that draws me to this conclusion.
A lot has happened to her , far more than appears 'normal'. House fires , car crashes , job issues , ex partners trying to kill her and the children. The medical thing is the big draw as it keeps the family emotionally attached. My wife who is an extremely bright individual listens to her mother recount the facts and even though I ask her to look at the detail carefully is a complete believer of her sister. It may well be that there are some issues we are all getting older but it is always the contrived nature of the detail. "The physiotherapist read the letter" etc. Can anyone have had a suspected stroke, heart attack but had no apparent long term hospital stays. The latest Motor Neurone Disease diagnosis is a real puzzler. Having looked at other MS cases I can find no other mention of MND. Symptoms poor grip , trouble walking distances and more. As far as I can research MND is a terminal illness but any attempt by my wife's mother to visit are put off vehemently. Has anyone else encountered anything similar?


I don't have all the facts but if saw what you are seeing I would be calling MUNCHER !!!!!!!

I love the " ex partners ...."

my mother call my father mad, lazy, narcissistic, you name it .. He was a gentle man who dragged himself out of poverty to become a CFO of a multi national. Never asked for anything ...she tried to kill him twice ..

irony was and not sure if this applies elsewhere, but she is the laziest person I know, and an extraordinary narcissist, of the highest order.. could talk for hours about her pissant achievements. Only an idiot who lived in a microscopic vacuum could think they were anything but pathetic.. extremely high IQ but a totally wasted life.

If you went back over these posts the real Munchers cases have a common thread of narcissism

as I said they rely on normal believing them.. nothing you can do, except be careful and minimize the costs (financial and physical) when you can
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Re: Sister in law suffering Munchausen Syndrome ?

Postby Stunner6 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:30 am

Now may not be MND. May be Kennedys disease ? Another specialist next week.....
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Re: Sister in law suffering Munchausen Syndrome ?

Postby Terry E. » Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:39 pm

Gasp, oh no .....
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Re: Sister in law suffering Munchausen Syndrome ?

Postby Stunner6 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:27 pm

Yet another twist. Cannot now be Kennedy's Disease. Can't get a blood test for six weeks , can't see the specialist until November. Family member has been told that if this individual was "happier" she may not deteriorate so quickly. Any thoughts anyone as to where she may go next ?
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Re: Sister in law suffering Munchausen Syndrome ?

Postby grandpolly » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:40 pm

"Family member has been told that if this individual was "happier" she may not deteriorate so quickly."

Well, at least someone seems to be hinting that the situation may be "psychosomatic". The question is who... Answering that means guessing what the communication pattern between the practitioners involved really is. That's a tough call, and it still may take years before all this eventually comes to a halt, and no one knows how it may end.

More predictive would be whether "Family member" feels confrontational or not faced with such a statement about the "individual" being "happier". If "Family member"'s pride is being hurt, I'd be worrying.
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Re: Sister in law suffering Munchausen Syndrome ?

Postby Terry E. » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:31 am

Stunner6 wrote:Yet another twist. Cannot now be Kennedy's Disease. Can't get a blood test for six weeks , can't see the specialist until November. Family member has been told that if this individual was "happier" she may not deteriorate so quickly. Any thoughts anyone as to where she may go next ?


I sometimes think family goes along with this as they dread dealing with them if they loose this "persona".

She will just look for someone who will listen to the BS.

My mother found an eye doctor more than happy to buy in, @ $800 per injection every month. Mum was "this is so important you must drop everything and come pick me up to go to the appointment or I will be bling by next week."

My son shuttled her around until she realised that she was always going to be dealing with some nurse, usually a different one each time and that "special" relationship she thought she had with the doctor was lost.

oh I forgot, someone mentioned that she was a Muncher, .. I wonder who that could have been. Doctor still took the money though.
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