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End of the road?

Postby snookiebookie » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:02 pm

Forgive me posting about this again, but I'm stuck what to do next

I have anxiety and depression. In the UK they actively avoid diagnosis for fear of stigmatising, instead they focus on treatment. I identify as someone with Social anxiety disorder, generalised anxiety disorder, possibly AvPD and possibly complex PTSD.

I've suffered all my life, but particularly since early teens. I've been in the mental health system for at least 20 years.

The meds that I've tried (but no longer use are):

Dosulepin
Sertraline
Venlafaxine
Prozac
Citalopram
Escitalopram
Paraxotine
Mertazapine
Pregabalin
... And possibly others

Therapy that I've had
Counselling - part funded by me - twice
CBT - on NHS - twice, the most recent was "intensive"
Psychodynamic therapy - on NHS approximately 20 years ago
Integrated therapy - paid privately

Things I currently do to help
Attend a peer support group twice monthly - actively continue and discuss my problems
Yoga (approximately 10 mins daily)
Mindfulness/meditation (approximately 5 minutes daily)
Journaling (approximately 10 minutes daily)
Exercise - walking - between 20-120 minutes daily

Other things
I've cut down on sugar (lost two stone in weight due to it)
I've cut down on caffeine - instead I take herbal teas (camomile or peppermint)
Take omega 3, magnesium, zinc, vitamin D, vitamin C
Take probiotics

Despite this, in still struggling. I've seen the mental health nurse three times in the last 12 months. Each time I'm told that there nothing they can offer me. I self referred for CBT to be told that it would not benefit me.

I'm feel that I've been written off. They've effectively said that there is no hope. As I'm not in crisis (i.e. I'm not self harming, not attempting suicide, not losing my job or home) they won't offer me anything.

This is absolutely devastating. I simply have to fix myself or pay privately (in UK, and can't afford insurance). Can't really afford much therapy.

I am trying, but I feel abandoned.

Anyone else been in this position? Any suggestions of what I can do next?
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A dash of Social Anxiety Disorder and GAD
Possible C-PTSD
Definitely Atychiphobia
BUT .....all round, good egg.
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Re: End of the road?

Postby InquisitivePursuer » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:05 pm

Would you want to specify the struggle you have been dealing with?
this would make it easier for someone to offer some possibly helpful feedback.
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Re: End of the road?

Postby snookiebookie » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:12 pm

Symptoms
Dreading interactions
Negative self talk
Catatrophizing.
Feeling inferior
Fearing making mistakes
Feeling unlikeable
Feeling like no-one will ever like me
Feeling like people are wanting me to fail - to the point of being paranoid
Dislike of being with people
Avoiding situations and conversations
Feeling judged
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Definitely Atychiphobia
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Re: End of the road?

Postby InquisitivePursuer » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:28 pm

snookiebookie wrote:Symptoms
Dreading interactions
Negative self talk
Catatrophizing.
Feeling inferior
Fearing making mistakes
Feeling unlikeable
Feeling like no-one will ever like me
Feeling like people are wanting me to fail - to the point of being paranoid
Dislike of being with people
Avoiding situations and conversations
Feeling judged


Oh, now it already makes a little more sense why a professional would give up on you,
as strictly based on this [admittedly still untelling] list of symptoms,
it would seem like you're just another human being of the many more that are struggling to cope
with life, and that have been dealt unfavourable cards by our parents as rulemakers of our underdeveloped lives, who were the largely unwitting architects that constructed the
groundplan and roadmap of our consciousness through which we're often helplessly struggling to navigate on our own, as we're so often lacking clear signal on the compass,
or may have none at our disposal at all.

I think it's fair to presume for now,
although in line with my principles i do intend to go easy on the presumptions,
that, since you've sought out so many different avenues through which no permanent solution has been found, it might be time for you to seek the solution from within,
ideally by means of reliable guidance in the form of trustworthy, learned people
that hold a more practical, useful, realistic hence less pessimistic outlook on life
than the typical clinician may be inclined to hold as a result of having come to lose faith him- or herself, as i can imagine it must be quite a demoralizing thing to realize that the majority of people often cannot be helped if the normally qualified individual hasn't got a clue where to begin,
which unfortunately generally is the case, i gather.

For starters,
if you're still captivated and interested,
which perchance might already not be the case [anymore],
i vehemently recommend you give a listenwatch to the man, a trained clinician, that is gradually altering the course of a critical mass of humankind by having steered clear from University where he used to, and i think (in part-time) still does, lecture in Psychology,
and [after] having decided to become a prominent figure in the sphere of Youtube
through which he can more readily reach a much larger audience,
and thus [by which means] he can be of much greater help to a greater variety and expanse of people.

I will suggest a simple, concise clip,
let's see how you'll take it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8GSf5cYCvE
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Re: End of the road?

Postby snookiebookie » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:42 pm

Very interesting

I'm aware of this guy, having watched some you tube videos of his. I liked the message in this clip. I'll bear it in mind and try some more of his psychology clips.

Thank you.
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Possible C-PTSD
Definitely Atychiphobia
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Re: End of the road?

Postby InquisitivePursuer » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:48 pm

snookiebookie wrote:Very interesting

I'm aware of this guy, having watched some you tube videos of his. I liked the message in this clip. I'll bear it in mind and try some more of his psychology clips.

Thank you.


Definitely do consult more of his work.
Odds are high you might find great value in some of them.

Prosperity on your road.
This is not the end.
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Re: End of the road?

Postby PSYisaSCAM » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:20 am

people should include work history .
mental illness is only possible if you can survive without physically working every day
cliché that is a simple fact - idleness is the devils workshop .
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Re: End of the road?

Postby snookiebookie » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:46 am

I work. I've worked for 28 years apart from six months off due to losing a job due to depression. I currently work part time but I'm busy the rest of my day looking after my daughter and husband. I don't have much time to myself, although I try to have a small amount of 'me' time each day. Work is my biggest trigger as it brings me in to contact with people.
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Re: End of the road?

Postby daisychains » Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:12 pm

Have you listened to any Alan Watts? Youtube is full of his fantastic talks - my list of symptoms is virtually the same as yours... as is my frustration and cluelessness about what comes next... mr Watts always manages to lift my spirits and helps me to find my humour and laugh at it all!
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Re: End of the road?

Postby InquisitivePursuer » Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:38 pm

daisychains wrote:Have you listened to any Alan Watts? Youtube is full of his fantastic talks - my list of symptoms is virtually the same as yours... as is my frustration and cluelessness about what comes next... mr Watts always manages to lift my spirits and helps me to find my humour and laugh at it all!


Thank the gods for Mr. Watts!!
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