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Postby kenny » Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:05 am

6th grade is actually still elementary school. although sometimes it is middle school. junior high doesn't start until 7th.

yes, the hair twirling was definitely repetitive. well now i'm wondering about knee bouncing. :D ha, i used to do that a lot.

did i read a lot? i read everything i could get my hands ever since i learned to read until my 20's. ya once the relational problems surfaced haven't had much of a 'love' for books at all. really can't say how quickly i learned to read, but i'm sure i got quite upset that it was taking so long. :D

hey, i've also always had a problem with depth or distance perception, that's AS too isn't it?

autistic shutdown???

ya still want to know more childhood stuff? hmm, i'm thinking of asking that lady if she would talk with my mom.
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Postby kenny » Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:27 am

hmm, i've been reading a bit about autistic shutdown now.

actually i think i had one last week, or atleast a minor one. well first off i should explain that i drive taxi, and i have a friend that drives taxi too. so anyhow, last week she told me to stop texting and emailing her. no big deal, she's told me to stop texting her before. but this time she told me to stop emailing her too. no big deal i thot, i texted her right back saying it's been nice knowing her and all. obviously she had struck some chords but i really didn't think it bothered me.

anyhow a couple hours later i was given the call to take her to work. i just can't explain it, waves of emotion came over me, i really don't know how i was able to drive. i didn't look at her, i didn't talk to her, i didn't even talk to the dispatcher till i dropped her off at the office. then later that night when there wasn't anything to do i would just shake, not violently, but still i would shake. well anyhow, she's pretty well freaked out, and won't talk to me at all.
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Postby Guest » Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:12 am

Hi Kenny, I read your posts and I cant help feeling that I was reading about myself, I almost lived through your last experience , and feel as if it had happened to me, ditto.

I couldn't help being confused, upset, and so hurt to be told to stop e-mailing or talking to the person concerned when i knew that I had done nothing to have caused such a sudden request to stop contacting this person as on that same afternoon we still talked and joked as always, well we knew each other for just approx. 6 to 7 weeks.
Afterwards I was angry, upset and disturbed and nothing made sense, I remember spending hours and days wondering and unable to work out why it happened, could anyone tell me why such a thing happened, I mean why I reacted the way i did? Wa I by any chance becoming emotionally attracted? Could that be the reason?''

I take so long to arrange things in my mind, almost compulsive to put order into my emotionalups and downs :roll: , worrying if other people can see my shortcomings but it appears that they don't as i have no problem being in a group with others.

I am also not very sure about Asperger's, I'm still searching since nobody has been able positively confirm that i have this condition, why is there such unsertainty?

I am able to quickly see the funny side of things, I can joke about myself, calling myself a 'dummy' in a joking way and will join in with others and even laugh at myself. I realize that my(almost) obsesive ways in having things arranged in a wierd order, just like Kenny filling the bottles with water :D and yet being told by someone i didn't think would matter to me really upset me , hurt me and disturb me, and as Kenny said the waves of emotions that made him shake, still leave me distressed.

You said she must have struck some chords, can you explain this? I wonder if perhaps you were becoming invoved with her or perhaps you thought she was. Because in my case when ever I see this person now, I can't help myselffrom slightly hurting, yet I know I am not really angry with him yet i never fail to react.

I have always needed very honest answers,I am almost obsessed with the truth. I am so confused, can anyone give some thoughts on this please?
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Postby dharanli » Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:37 pm

This post was edited , deleted by me, I feel that I have interrupted Kenny's questions, conversations :oops: , I humbly apologize for having done so, it was not intentional, I guess I was so surprised by the similarity of what had happened to him as well as the Asperger's condition that I also suspect I may have.

I am sorry Kenny. :(
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Postby opivy22 » Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:26 am

kenny wrote:6th grade is actually still elementary school. although sometimes it is middle school. junior high doesn't start until 7th.


6-7th grades are far, far too late for Asperger's, which requires the symptoms be apparent by age 3-4. The reason for this is Asperger's is a developmental disorder that includes social dysfunction. It is not a social disorder in itself. If you learned to speak a little later than normal or about the same time that was normal, but had a great amount of difficulty learning to walk and then walked funny once you did learn, didn't know how to properly play with toys as a child, etc then maybe Asperger's would fit you.

Social issues as a teenager or adult do relate to Asperger's, but unless you met the criteria for Autism as a child, minus the very low IQ and abnormal verbal development, they don't mean anything because a lot of other disorders also deal with social issues.


kenny wrote:yes, the hair twirling was definitely repetitive. well now i'm wondering about knee bouncing. :D ha, i used to do that a lot.


Those are more along the lines of psychomotor agitation, which would be symptoms of your Bipolar diagnosis. I have Bipolar I myself and I do a lot of simaliar things when in manic and hypomanic states, but none of them are forms of self-stimulation that would be related to my Asperger's diagnosis.
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Postby speedwell » Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:36 pm

Hi Kenny

What age exactly is 6th grade - I'd be interested. Sometimes symptoms may not be apparent to others until about the age of 6 or even later sometimes - probably for the following reasons. Every child is different and develops at different rates. As long as the basic milestones are met however and the child can function basically most people are content with that and happy to assimilate any differences like lining up toys etc as long as there appears to be nothing really wrong. AS is genetic so that could be a reason why parents accomodate and see nothing different about their child (if they have these traits themselves).

Also the first year or two of primary school even now, are very much play based with lots of physical educational aids - counting blocks sandpit etc. I'm wondering if many differences tend to become apparent when the child moves away from this enviromnent and starts having to do much more written work and sitting still to concentrate and more complex interactions with others.

Just a thought. I'm also interested in what you said about going into hospital. It sounds as if you remember everything very clearly. This struck me as unusual for a diagnosis of sz as isn't one of it's defining factors supposed to be confusion?

Would be interested to know more :)
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