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Postby petrossa » Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:12 pm

Anatomy and aging of the amygdala and hippocampus in autism spectrum disorder: an in vivo magnetic resonance imaging study of Asperger syndrome.
Murphy CM, Deeley Q, Daly EM, Ecker C, O'Brien FM, Hallahan B, Loth E, Toal F, Reed S, Hales S, Robertson DM, Craig MC, Mullins D, Barker GJ, Lavender T, Johnston P, Murphy KC, Murphy DG.
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King's College London, Institute of Psychiatry, Department of Forensic and Neurodevelopmental Science, London, United Kingdom. clodagh.m.murphy@kcl.ac.uk.
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It has been proposed that people with autism spectrum disorder (ASD) have abnormal morphometry and development of the amygdala and hippocampus (AH). However, previous reports are inconsistent, perhaps because they included people of different ASD diagnoses, ages, and health. We compared, using magnetic resonance imaging, the in vivo anatomy of the AH in 32 healthy individuals with Asperger syndrome (12-47 years) and 32 healthy controls who did not differ significantly in age or IQ. We measured bulk (gray + white matter) volume of the AH using manual tracing (MEASURE). We first compared the volume of AH between individuals with Asperger syndrome and controls and then investigated age-related differences. We compared differences in anatomy before, and after, correcting for whole brain size. There was no significant between group differences in whole brain volume. However, individuals with Asperger syndrome had a significantly larger raw bulk volume of total (P<0.01), right (P<0.01), and left amygdala (P<0.05); and when corrected for overall brain size, total (P<0.05), and right amygdala (P<0.01). There was a significant group difference in aging of left amygdala; controls, but not individuals with Asperger syndrome, had a significant age-related increase in volume (r = 0.486, P<0.01, and r = 0.007, P = 0.97, z = 1.995). There were no significant group differences in volume or age-related effects in hippocampus. Individuals with Asperger syndrome have significant differences from controls in bulk volume and aging of the amygdala


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=21948742%20
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Re: Good news for Aspies in ASD.

Postby TNSe » Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:22 pm

Whats bulk volume and age of amallglylsgliasobia?
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Re: Good news for Aspies in ASD.

Postby PonderThis » Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:36 pm

How about a summary in words for the masses? :D

And, what makes this "good news".

I can guess maybe they're saying we have more grey matter than NT's, which I might accept, but it still doesn't explain the supposed lacking of emotion, empathy, and interpretation of body language we seem to have. OK, admittedly I barely understand this post. Maybe somebody else will fill me in on what I missed. :D
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Re: Good news for Aspies in ASD.

Postby Camelidae » Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:37 pm

As interesting as this is, WHY is it good? (petrossa...? :mrgreen: )
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Re: Good news for Aspies in ASD.

Postby DJM19 » Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:43 pm

Now now, peeps. If petrossa says it's good, then it's good. Might have a glass of something strong to celebrate. :D As if I need an excuse being at uni. :wink:
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Re: Good news for Aspies in ASD.

Postby Robot575 » Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:01 pm

Is it gpod news because now they can diagnose someone with AS based off of the size of their brains parts?
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Re: Good news for Aspies in ASD.

Postby petrossa » Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:17 pm

TNSe wrote:Whats bulk volume and age of amallglylsgliasobia?


Seat of the emotions/primal urges. Old remnant we share with reptiles. The bigger the more active, the smaller... you can figure that one out. :wink:
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Re: Good news for Aspies in ASD.

Postby petrossa » Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:18 pm

There was a significant group difference in aging of left amygdala; controls, but not individuals with Asperger syndrome, had a significant age-related increase in volume (r = 0.486, P<0.01, and r = 0.007, P = 0.97, z = 1.995). There were no significant group differences in volume or age-related effects in hippocampus. Individuals with Asperger syndrome have significant differences from controls in bulk volume and aging of the amygdala


As you age you don't get more emotional like NT's do. Old men become more emotional (grumpy) because their logical faculties diminish and their emotional parts grow. With females it's the inverse. That's why females tend to get more 'stable' as they age.

Your memory center (hippocampus) doesn't seem to be different from NT's meaning you shouldn't lose your memory as you age more then average despite memory issues we all have.

They didn't say anything about gender in this test but i presume logically that they are all male since AS is still overwhelmingly a male thing.
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Re: Good news for Aspies in ASD.

Postby EBR » Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:17 am

I thought all aspergers were classed under ASD...
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Re: Good news for Aspies in ASD.

Postby Rascal77s » Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:38 am

petrossa wrote:
TNSe wrote:Whats bulk volume and age of amallglylsgliasobia?


The bigger the more active, the smaller... you can figure that one out. :wink:


And they say that size doesn't matter.... pffft
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