Sabratha wrote:Hare generally sees things in a criminal vs non-criminal way. I can't find this quote now, but I do vividly remember him linking psychopathic criminal behavior to factor 2 traits and subcriminal psychopathic behavior to factor 1 traits.
Subjectively, I find his reasoning convincing.
In the aforementioned study, the unsuccessful psychopaths were higher on both factor 1 and factor 2 in comparison with successful psychopaths, although, the difference was rather small. Both psychopathic groups were very high on both measures compared to normals. If you don't engage in antisocial behaviors, you're not a psychopath according to the current definition.
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katana wrote:then there is the idea that many "subcriminal psychopaths" who actually succeed are actually narcissists with severe NPD rather than sociopaths, i.e. psychopathy/sociopathy seen as more severe cases of AsPD or NPD and not all of it is the same. - I don't know if this is true or not though.
NPD and psychopathy are overlapping categories. Rodney Alcala and John Wayne Gacy were both diagnosed with NPD, amongst other things. Both are psychopaths. Not every psychopath meets the diagnostic criteria for NPD, but with "grandiose self-worth" and "lack of empathy" on the PCL-R, there is bound to be a correlation between NPD and clinical psychopathy. Indeed, Narcissistic Personality Inventory scores and classic NPD symptoms both correlate moderately with factor 1, factor 2, and PCL-R total score.
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