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Michelle Carter text suicide trial ruling

Postby Wannabe » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:41 pm

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/michelle-ca ... ct-guilty/

TL;DR:

- Depressed male peer regularly talked with Carter about suicide.
- Carter convinced the teen to kill himself by hotboxing his car exhaust over a series of instructive and emotionally manipulative text messages.
- Carter found guilty of involountary manslaughter.
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Re: Michelle Carter text suicide trial ruling

Postby masteroftheuniverse » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:50 pm

If words can make you kill yourself you deserve to be dead. He would have done it eventually when something else triggered him. Not her fault. Free speech!
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Re: Michelle Carter text suicide trial ruling

Postby Otter » Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:31 am

If suicide was still a crime in the USA prosecutors could have used that angle.
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Re: Michelle Carter text suicide trial ruling

Postby OneRinger » Sat Jun 17, 2017 3:06 am

She wanted it, did what she could to get it, and got it. Now she needs to take responsibility for it.

I would have put it a voluntary manslaughter though, there was nothing involuntary about it.
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Re: Michelle Carter text suicide trial ruling

Postby Midwinter » Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:25 am

I'm rather sure she did it because she loved him, and in order to end his suffering just pushed him out there. It was his decision to follow through with it, so he should be blamed for it.
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Re: Michelle Carter text suicide trial ruling

Postby Sixoclock0 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:48 am

Midwinter wrote:It was his decision to follow through with it, so he should be blamed for it.

Cool. But surely you understand that this is just you and a few others niche opinion, it's not some morally complete and transcendent truth.

It's the intent what matters.
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Re: Michelle Carter text suicide trial ruling

Postby Dulcet » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:06 am

This ruling makes it certain I will end up in prison
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Re: Michelle Carter text suicide trial ruling

Postby Midwinter » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:39 am

Sixoclock0 wrote:
Midwinter wrote:It was his decision to follow through with it, so he should be blamed for it.

Cool. But surely you understand that this is just you and a few others niche opinion, it's not some morally complete and transcendent truth.

It's the intent what matters.


Wrong. It's like saying that the intent of a gift is what matters. Not really. I can intend to have someone killed, and then they do it themselves. That doesn't make me guilty. They could've decided to cut the ties with me, they could've decided to seek help. If you are too stubborn to not seek help when you're depressed, it was probably better to move on into the void to alleviate the pain. He could've tried saving himself at all times. He killed himself, not her. I would've asked someone to kill themselves as well if they bug me with their constant depressive thoughts. That $#%^ is draining af.
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Re: Michelle Carter text suicide trial ruling

Postby Sixoclock0 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:50 am

Wrong Mr malignant narc. I have the law on my side. You can try to fumble with this and that, with irrelevant justification.
Everyone is responsible for their actions, including intentions. Especially if there are actions that correlate with intentions.
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Re: Michelle Carter text suicide trial ruling

Postby Midwinter » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:59 am

Sixoclock0 wrote:Wrong Mr malignant narc. I have the law on my side. You can try to fumble with this and that, with irrelevant justification.
Everyone is responsible for their actions, including intentions. Especially if there are actions that correlate with intentions.


So if someone persuades me to pee on the sidewalk, and the police arrests me, they should also arrest my friend for his intention of making me do it? :lol:
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