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Re: Michelle Carter text suicide trial ruling

Postby SweetSlumber » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:12 pm

ElephantEyes wrote:Guilty. He would still be alive if she didn't text him.


How do you know that?

I think people like to call her guilty because humans tend to look for somebody to blame if something bad happens. They don't know what to do with their negative emotions so they look for a target that they can freely hate. That's why we have superstitions, witch hunts etc.

But reality is more complicated than a story for little children, and there isn't always an evil overlord behind all the bad stuff that's happening.
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Re: Michelle Carter text suicide trial ruling

Postby ElephantEyes » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:40 pm

SweetSlumber wrote:
ElephantEyes wrote:Guilty. He would still be alive if she didn't text him.


How do you know that?

I think people like to call her guilty because humans tend to look for somebody to blame if something bad happens. They don't know what to do with their negative emotions so they look for a target that they can freely hate. That's why we have superstitions, witch hunts etc.

But reality is more complicated than a story for little children, and there isn't always an evil overlord behind all the bad stuff that's happening.


I am looking at it from a legal perspective. Guilty or not guilty. Law doesnt go by emotion as you are doing. Its clinical and black and white. You sound like a bleeding heart.
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Re: Michelle Carter text suicide trial ruling

Postby Quoth » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:00 pm

Given the amount of dismay at the sentence I have to ask, what is the virtue of allowing Ms Carter to retain her freedom? Or her life for that matter?
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Re: Michelle Carter text suicide trial ruling

Postby Eight » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:31 pm

She instigated, antagonized, and used her influence with him to get him to suicide.
She is guilty of that. Legally and morally.
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Re: Michelle Carter text suicide trial ruling

Postby SweetSlumber » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:52 pm

@Elephantize I would post a picture of a bleeding heart, but I'm worried that would earn me a ban.

On a serious note, trying to see a matter from a different perspective is one of the virtues I still believe in. It would be nice if more people practiced it.
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Re: Michelle Carter text suicide trial ruling

Postby Macaria88 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:59 am

Quoth wrote:Given the amount of dismay at the sentence I have to ask, what is the virtue of allowing Ms Carter to retain her freedom? Or her life for that matter?


There is none.
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Re: Michelle Carter text suicide trial ruling

Postby smoke40s » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:34 pm

I think it's total BS that being mean to someone resulting in their suicide is counted as murder.

If someone kills themselves over something another person says, it's because they already wanted to die. That's on them.

If someone is happier dead, let em commit suicide. Assisting them and giving them that extra push to finally have the guts to actually do it seems like more of a service than anything.

What are they contributing to society other than depressing everyone around them.
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Re: Michelle Carter text suicide trial ruling

Postby Eight » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:05 pm

She wasn't just being mean. She was complicit in his suicide.

He was only 18. He hadn't lived enough years to make a final decision yet whether his life was worth living.

I believe in suicide for those who have had enough experience living that they can make a wise choice to die. I think there should be a means to allow for that to legally happen. I don't know how to put an age/stage on that. But 18 is too young.
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