Cluster B's are people oriented?

Reaper wrote:

DDK wrote:

Reaper wrote:I have both AsPD and Schizoid PD

When you think you had the transition from SPD to ASPD?

There was no transition from one to the other. I was diagnosed with both by the same psychologist.

How? Basically, a disorder cancels the other.

DDK wrote:

There was no transition from one to the other. I was diagnosed with both by the same psychologist.

How? Basically, a disorder cancels the other.

What do you mean a disorder cancels the other?

You can get diagnosed with more than one personality disorder.

http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/healthadvice/problemsdisorders/personalitydisorder.aspx

A person can have the characteristics of more than one personality disorder.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1525106/

Patients often meet diagnostic criteria for more than one personality disorder (20,21). Some patients may even meet criteria for five or more personality disorders (22,23).

that doesn't make any sense. these men probably weren't really alpha to begin with, but just have a public image of alpha - very common these days

You'll have to be more specific - and that sounds a lot like the baseless assumption that gay is the same kind of trend, yeah?

DefinitelyNotTommi wrote:

that doesn't make any sense. these men probably weren't really alpha to begin with, but just have a public image of alpha - very common these days

You'll have to be more specific - and that sounds a lot like the baseless assumption that gay is the same kind of trend, yeah?

What they're saying is (and I wonder this myself) how they could be Alpha and yet, allow a weaker male to dominate them.

They can't have been as Alpha as you thought to begin with, unless your idea of domination doesn't match mine and whoever's comment you responded to above.

This has nothing do with you or them being gay by the way. I don't doubt that there are Alpha males in the gay community.

some people hold 'alpha' roles in society (judge, military officer) but behind closed doors may be tame or very controllable.

even outside of such roles, some people just act alpha (confident, dominant, controlling, tough, etc.) but are not really so. they just act that way because it's more effective in getting what they want or need in competitive world.

how exactly are the guys you date alpha?

a truly alpha male is not susceptible to emotional manipulation. in fact, this is the one type of manipulation that definitely won't work on them.

the only way to beat a truly alpha male is to out muscle, gun, or smart them. to use raw power. the notion of women emotionally manipulating big strong alpha males impervious to all others is a myth. either the guys you date are not as alpha as you (would like) to think, or you are deluding yourself into thinking you are controlling them or gaining more than they are.

note, any interaction that involves equal exchange is not manipulation. successful manipulation means you gained more than someone else, or gained at their cost.

crystal_richardson_ wrote:the only way to beat a truly alpha male is to out muscle, gun, or smart them. to use raw power. the notion of women emotionally manipulating big strong alpha males impervious to all others is a myth.

This isn't about what you think a woman can or cannot do, and personally, I'm sick of hearing your thoughts on women. So, let's stick to the discussion at hand shall we.

This is about Tommi's claim of being able to dominate Alpha males.

We had this discussion before, crystal - you, me and JustVenting. Between you both, you convinced me of the lie that is the seduction of Julius Caesar by Cleopatra. You may be right that the archetypical Alpha Male is not susceptible to emotional manipulations. But I don't know why. Explain it to me.

Courtier wrote:We had this discussion before, crystal - you, me and JustVenting. Between you both, you convinced me of the lie that is the seduction of Julius Caesar by Cleopatra. You may be right that the archetypical Alpha Male is not susceptible to emotional manipulations. But I don't know why. Explain it to me.

Why don't you start a new thread if you really want to have a discussion with her about this.

A tangent on a thread is one thing but creating another thread for something irrelevant to the forum as a whole is another step in the wrong direction. It could be answered in Off-Topic or PM, I suppose. I'll leave that up to crystal, if she's interested.

Oh rightio, I getcha now
You're right, I was wrong in my use of the word alpha perhaps - "more alpha" was meant as a comparison rather than to say the men I date are completely infallible.
They're physically superior, assertive, arrogant & masculine whereas I go out of my way to come across as none of those things, but if they were true alpha males with no chinks in the armour then I wouldn't be remotely interested in them. If there's no way I can take control of somebody I'm not even going to try.

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O/T, I keep losing my replies when people reply before me and I assume it's just been posted.
#derp