MrsBrightside wrote:
fairly certain it's lilyfairy, I can't find a mission statement anywhere on here, just general rules, Ada probably knows the mission, if one even exists.
Thank you for the information. Perhaps if I need the information I will contact lilyfairy or Ada. For now it was just a casual question.
Peer support is emotional support from others going through the same struggles. Encouragement that way I put it, is the encouragement of disordered behaviour, rather than "peer support" around the struggles to resist disordered behaviour.
I don't think ASPD is capable of genuine encouragement, but I'm not sure many others are either
I wonder, though. As you said later in your post, 5 of the most intelligent people on the forum are on the ASPD forum. In all their intelligence, I suspect they can provide adequate peer support.
After all, aren't many psychiatrists and psychologists said to be somewhat psychpathic? Or is that just Hollywood? Like
Silence of the Lambs. It would not surprise me, anyways. And I've noted the intelligence here, as well. Its part of what has drawn me here. Bouncing ideas and questions off of people who can give back very insightful and thoughtful responses.
I just wonder how many use their "disorder" as an excuse to get away with stuff they know better of. Not that its not expected. Of course, it is. Also, doesn't mean we cannot aspire to better. Or do we just give in, and wallow in a swamp of PD, like crocodiles?
I suspect even the most severely disordered of people know the difference between right and wrong, and have some insight into what is their disorder talking/motivating them. I.e., most people know murder is bad, even if they have murderous impulses.
I don't have insight on when my disorder is talking, I can't tell it from me, right and wrong I don't know, I can tell something is illegal, but I still will think it's right because I feel like doing it? Is that knowing?
PD doesn't mean stupid. It just means extreme and maladaptive coping mechanisms. Things, which, if not kept in check, will put oneself and others in a lot of danger.
All right. Fair and good point here. Part of PD is very well clouded judgement. A person might not always know if what they are thinking or planning is correct. That is where the peer support would come in helpful.
After all, do you really want to face legal charges, possible jail, fines, etc.? Is it not preferable for an understanding and like minded friend to tell you to stop before it happens? Would you prefer them to encourage you, and then you end up in jail because of it?
How do you check it? I almost think you barely can. I'm not sure the coping mechanisms are maladaptive, maybe to others, but my mind makes a lot of sense to me. Not stupid at all, this section of the forum has some on the smarter people on the internet even if it's really just 5 of them
Its a challenge to control the behaviour, but its possible, in most cases, no? Especially with correct peer support. Encouraging the disordered behaviour is certainly not going to help.
However, this is a faulty impression, and the more time people spend here, the less likely they are to be able to adapt and function in "Non" society.
That's true, venting is harmless and probably a healthy coping mechanism. Well, with me anyways, once I get something of my chest it stops bothering me for a bit. Doesn't mean I'll act on what I vented about.
That wasn't exactly what I was talking about here.
If something is bothering me I have to throw it through a chain of blabbing, in my head or outwardly, but I don't do that often here I guess because the point gets lost so quickly, I have done it to a few people in private messages, and they were actually helpful
Sounds like good peer support has happened.
You seem judgmental
Maybe I am. Never thought of it.
Its great that a few had some seriously valid points that you found useful or insightful. I think that's the goal, of therapy and peer support.
Is it? I thought it was to change.
The first step of change is recognising the problem. I assumed that is what you meant when you said you found some things useful or insightful.
What are you analyzing and why?
I'm analysing the forum. I enjoy analysing.
As a mental exercise, is what is happening here, generally, productive towards a therapeutic end? Or are some people finding encouragement to increase their antisocial behaviour?
I think it's neither. Although this happened on another forum.. but this forum is better, although I haven't been on that forum to know, but the dude had autism not ASPD anyway in the end http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... nddad.html
Yeah, the dude was whack. Killed his grandfather for no reason, apparently. I wonder what would happen if that guy had come onto this forum. Would people have been impressed? I hope not. Nothing really cool about what he did, not that I can see, anyways. That's the type of thing I wonder someone on here might decide to do if they read too much, though. Not that I'm judging or I care. I'm just thinking and asking, analysing, for the sake of it. Its something to do.
I.e., if someone discloses some antisocial act, and people go, "I like you! That's awesome! Do it more!" Is that "peer support?"
usually people just say the person is lying here, nobody trusts a word anyone says here
Well, yeah, they do accuse people of lying a lot. I really can't argue about that.
Dude above would no doubt be accused of lying also if he came on here. Although from what I remember, he posted pics to prove what he had done. He was accused of lying there too.
The equivalent would be, if someone in the borderline forum talked about cutting their arm wide open, and some peers went "Yeah! That's great! Cut some more!"
Is that good? Is that what the site is for?
I don't think anyone encourages the ASPD version of cutting here
Perhaps this point is debatable.
And is the site owner him/herself analysing their site and seeing if its meeting their original goal?
They have analyzed this forum many times and decided it should stay
All right.
Do legal issues arise, ever?
they wouldn't tell us
That's true.
Are people ever harmed by being a member here?
not this site that I know of
If so, its probably been covered up.
What is the goal of the site?
there is no mission statement I can locate
Ahhhh.
Are we allowed to ask these things?
you'll find out
This will be censored, perhaps.
I'm a person who likes to ask questions.
I had not noticed, thanks for clarifying
You are welcome.
Thank you for your insightful answers.